Arishem vs Galactus

Originally posted by Effect Veiler
[1] What does it matter?

It matters because you claimed Arishem was a low tier Celestial because he has no titles or feats.

oh, and to your comment about him being beyond any Celestial:

I'm guessing you don't mean the Celestial that one-shot him right after he ate four planets, or is that PIS too?

Weren't those 4 celestials?

Originally posted by Mindset
Weren't those 4 celestials?

3 or 4, it's unclear to me if the 4th was involved as he was dead. But that Galactus ate four planets so he was "amped" also, and technically they combined into one celestial, and he said over any celestial, which he was at that point.

Now if Arishem can trump the entire rest of fourth host by himself, that would make him beyond multiple celestials himself, and certainly not a "low tier celestial".

Originally posted by Effect Veiler
Ashirem is a low tier Celestial who was knocked around by Thor? And Galactus has killed numerous Celestials and taken dumps on pretty much every Asgardian.

Let me put it this way, if you don't see why Galactus would win then you wouldn't be able to read signals even if a woman pepper sprayed you in public.

Yep, this is another guaranteed 10/10.

Since when is Arishem the Judge, leader of the 4th host a low tier celelsial? The only time he was "knocked around" by Thor was when Thor shattered the pillars he was on. Whats that supposed to prove? Arishem has no sold three high skyfather's concentrated assault and made them bow to him.

I guess you don't know about or ignore Thor's previous history and fights with Galactus and how many time's he's affected and hurt him.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
3 or 4, it's unclear to me if the 4th was involved as he was dead. But that Galactus ate four planets so he was "amped" also, and technically they combined into one celestial, and he said over any celestial, which he was at that point.

Now if Arishem can trump the entire rest of fourth host by himself, that would make him beyond multiple celestials himself, and certainly not a "low tier celestial".

Arishem would get styled on by the entire 4th host.

Originally posted by Mindset
That's still 4 celestials.

They WERE 4, but they did turn into ONE. So the new combined Celestial, is one being. But OK, fair enough.

Exitar is stated as being beyond the entire 4th host. I don't recall it ever being said that Arishem is beyond the entire 4th host.

Arishem doesn't have the combat feats against cosmic beings that Galactus does.

Galactus KO'd thor in their first encounter by merely using a "visi-cloud"

In the scans you posted, which come from an alternate reality, Thor WAS one-shotted by Galactus, much in the same way that Phoenix Cyclops one-shotted Thor most recently.

BRB is irrelevant since that Galactus was near death. The fact that you have to bring up a near death Galactus to illustrate how vulnerable he can be to certain characters doesn't support your argument since by default forum fights stipulate participants aren't extra-ordinarily weakened or de-powered. Oh, and BRB cracking his armor is a useless feat. It was even dismissed the next panel over as being useless (literally "it is of little importance"😉

Odin engaged Galactus in TP and was on the verge of losing. Thor cheap-shotted Galactus in the head while engaged in TP and while causing him pain, the TP was still engaged and Odin was still on the verge of losing. That's more of a feat for Galactus IMO since Thor ultimately didn't accomplish anything since G was able to STILL maintain his TP and Odin admitted the next issue he had to break the TP off because he couldn't continue.

Originally posted by Power Cosmic II
Exitar is stated as being beyond the entire 4th host. I don't recall it ever being said that Arishem is beyond the entire 4th host.

Arishem doesn't have the combat feats against cosmic beings that Galactus does.

Galactus KO'd thor in their first encounter by merely using a "visi-cloud"

In the scans you posted, which come from an alternate reality, Thor WAS one-shotted by Galactus, much in the same way that Phoenix Cyclops one-shotted Thor most recently.

BRB is irrelevant since that Galactus was near death. The fact that you have to bring up a near death Galactus to illustrate how vulnerable he can be to certain characters doesn't support your argument since by default forum fights stipulate participants aren't extra-ordinarily weakened or de-powered. Oh, and BRB cracking his armor is a useless feat. It was even dismissed the next panel over as being useless (literally "it is of little importance"😉

Odin engaged Galactus in TP and was on the verge of losing. Thor cheap-shotted Galactus in the head while engaged in TP and while causing him pain, the TP was still engaged and Odin was still on the verge of losing. That's more of a feat for Galactus IMO since Thor ultimately didn't accomplish anything since G was able to STILL maintain his TP and Odin admitted the next issue he had to break the TP off because he couldn't continue.

I guess you missed the point of what I was saying. This isn't a Thor vs galactus or Odin vs galactus thread.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
I guess you missed the point of what I was saying. This isn't a Thor vs galactus or Odin vs galactus thread.

You made it that point when you kept referring to BRB and Thor.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris

Knocked around by Thor? I guess we have different definitions of "knocked around". But while we're on the subject, Thor has driven back Galatus, cracked his helmet twice, BRB has cracked his helmet, Odin has had a good showing against him, etc. Just recently Thor made Galactus feel pain.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris

So that's PIS, but Thor "knocking around" a being who can swat Odin away like a fly isn't? In actuality, Thor, BRB, and Odin all have CONSISTENTLY done well against Galactus (depending on your definition of "doing well"😉. Beta Ray Bill could have killed Galactus had he wanted to.

Replying to this post isn't "missing the point." It contains either irrelevancy (BRB the opportunity to kill a near death Galactus) or indifference (BRB cracking G's helmet, when not only was Galactus hungry, Galactus quickly dismissed it as inconsequential) and highly debatable (Odin did well against Galactus in a TP battle, and still would have lost. The rest, including the headbutt, is embarrassing at best for Odin). Thor caused Galactus pain while he was distracted against Odin in TP. Thor blasting Galactus while near death in FF and making him feel pain is negated by a much more relatively recent feat of Galactus being near death in Galactus the devourer and being completely unfazed by Thor's attacks. So the only times Thor has "done well" against Galactus are either near death or distracted in a TP battle.

The mad celestials have any feat ?

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
The mad celestials have any feat ?

Defeating a Council of Reeds, three mad celestials had the power to defeat Franklin Richards so they are by no means pushovers.

But how we can compare then with Arishen

bump

Arisen, Galactus power level varies too much due to his hunger.

Seeing this made me feel nostalgic. Good bump, stilt.

Both lose to beta ray bill.

Originally posted by Damborgson
Since when is Arishem the Judge, leader of the 4th host a low tier celelsial? The only time he was "knocked around" by Thor was when Thor shattered the pillars he was on. Whats that supposed to prove? Arishem has no sold three high skyfather's concentrated assault and made them bow to him.

I guess you don't know about or ignore Thor's previous history and fights with Galactus and how many time's he's affected and hurt him.

Stfu Damborg.

Depends on how fed Galactus is

At his most powerful, Galactus should be above nearly any one Celestial. Look at how beastly he became from munching on Dark Dimension magic.