Death of the Endless Vs Nekron Lord of the Unliving

Originally posted by zopzop
Silence!

That wasn't what I was getting at in that post. Just merely pointing out he's far more than an aspect of Death or even "just" a Death abstract.

Thought this was interesting...

Lex: "The attack of the Black Lanterns! the dead rising! That's what this is about, isn't it? It was you behind that!"
Death: "Oh yeah. I noticed that. It looked like they were all having a great time. You know, people do come back from the dead. It's not a big deal... I AM kind of busy.":

Lex: "The dead have come back to life! Several of them!"
Death: "It happens! In the end, they ALL come back to ME.":

Death seemed to treat the entire Blackest Night affair like it was nothing at all. An insignificant event she hardly even noticed. Funny.

Lol, Neil Gaiman was so butthurt.

Originally posted by Galan007
Oh okay.

Thought this was interesting...

Lex: "The attack of the Black Lanterns! the dead rising! That's what this is about, isn't it? It was you behind that!"
Death: "Oh yeah. I noticed that. It looked like they were all having a great time. You know, people do come back from the dead. It's not a big deal... I AM kind of busy.":

Lex: "The dead have come back to life! Several of them!"
Death: "It happens! In the end, they ALL come back to ME.":

Death seemed to treat the entire Blackest Night affair, like it was nothing at all. An insignificant event she hardly even noticed. Funny.

And technically they do not come back to her. Some go to the Silver City, some go to Hell, some go to Nekron's Realm.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Lol, Neil Gaiman was so butthurt.

Originally posted by Galan007
Oh okay.

Thought this was interesting...

Lex: "The attack of the Black Lanterns! the dead rising! That's what this is about, isn't it? It was you behind that!"
Death: "Oh yeah. I noticed that. It looked like they were all having a great time. You know, people do come back from the dead. It's not a big deal... I AM kind of busy.":

Lex: "The dead have come back to life! Several of them!"
Death: "It happens! In the end, they ALL come back to ME.":

Death seemed to treat the entire Blackest Night affair like it was nothing at all. An insignificant event she hardly even noticed. Funny.

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Originally posted by zopzop
Yup. They had to get his highness's permission to use the Death character and you KNOW he wasn't about to let them eclipse that over rated hag. Ghey. 😘

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im confused. why is gaiman butthurt?

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
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"ohnoes some vaguely deathy character>Mine".

You don't see Marv Wolfman getting that butthurt over his origin story for the Anti-Monitor and Monitor being retconned (As far as I know, admittedly could be wrong).

Originally posted by Prep-Man
im confused. why is gaiman butthurt?

Originally posted by Prep-Man
im confused. why is gaiman butthurt?

He sees Black Racer, which introduces himself as death. Then he sees Death of the Endless and she also says she's death. This is before confronting Nekron (I think it was before) and he is also described as death.

When asked how this is possible death says Death is a big concept. Black Racer is Death as an inevitability. Death of the Endless is Death as compassionate release. Nekron is Death as the ultimate foe.

This pissed off his majesty and he said his Death was the one true Death. So far as I know this has never been stated on panel. It's just Gaiman being a little b|tch@ss whiner.

Originally posted by zopzop
Because for her it was. Ultimately the zombies were put down and Nekron was banished, since by definition he's NOT allowed to be in the living universe. The situation was self correcting.

And technically they do not come back to her. Some go to the Silver City, some go to Hell, some go to Nekron's Realm.

No they all do come back to her, in that what she means is no matter where they go/think their going, they're always collected by her, as she's not just a god of death/lord of a realm where dead souls go, she literally IS death in every sense of the word. Be it from goldfish to universes, she is the thing that collects them as they die.

It's why she's considered so powerful and the only Endless who is really unstopable- noone is beyond her in the end (except the Presence I guess). I mean, it's shown in Books of Magic that at the end of the universe she collects Destiny and then the entire universe. The fact that she ends up beyond Destiny is particularly interesting, as it's been shown that Destiny is the foundation upon which the universe is built ("cause and effect is a useful tool, but not one that should be used as a foundation" what Lucifer says to Destiny).

Originally posted by AlmightyKfish
No they all do come back to her, in that what she means is no matter where they go/think their going, they're always collected by her, as she's not just a god of death/lord of a realm where dead souls go, she literally IS death in every sense of the word. Be it from goldfish to universes, she is the thing that collects them as they die.

It's why she's considered so powerful and the only Endless who is really unstopable- noone is beyond her in the end (except the Presence I guess). I mean, it's shown in Books of Magic that at the end of the universe she collects Destiny and then the entire universe. The fact that she ends up beyond Destiny is particularly interesting, as it's been shown that Destiny is the foundation upon which the universe is built ("cause and effect is a useful tool, but not one that should be used as a foundation" what Lucifer says to Destiny).

And she can do anything she wants to the universe and it won't affect negatively on Nekron, seeing as how he's literally the empty space between atoms and planets. What's Death of the Endless going to do to the Void who also has his own realm outside of the physical universe wedged inbetween Heaven and Hell that ALL souls must pass through?!

Isn't Destiny explicitly stated to be the oldest and most powerful Endless?

Originally posted by NemeBro
Isn't Destiny explicitly stated to be the oldest and most powerful Endless?

Quick question, has this ever been retconned ON PANEL (don't bother linking to interviews with Gaiman whining, I want on panel evidence)?

Black Racer : Death as Inevitability
Death of the Endless : Death as Compassionate Release
Nekron : Death as COSMIC Certainty, the Ultimate Opponent

PS, here's Marvel's middle finger to Prince Gaiman

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Originally posted by zopzop

PS, here's Marvel's middle finger to Prince Gaiman

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Originally posted by NemeBro He acted like a pussy over the whole ordeal. "ohnoes some vaguely deathy character>Mine". You don't see Marv Wolfman getting that butthurt over his origin story for the Anti-Monitor and Monitor being retconned (As far as I know, admittedly could be wrong).

over which death character? and Paul cornell asked permission to use Death in his superman arc. Gaiman gave his blessings as cornell is a respected writer. and that arc was one of the best superman stories i have read involving luthor.

Originally posted by zopzop Multiple reasons. But it began back in 1987 in an issue of Captain Atom 42. Captain Atom dies and goes on a little journey through the after life. He sees Black Racer, which introduces himself as death. Then he sees Death of the Endless and she also says she's death. This is before confronting Nekron (I think it was before) and he is also described as death. When asked how this is possible death says Death is a big concept. Black Racer is Death as an inevitability. Death of the Endless is Death as compassionate release. Nekron is Death as the ultimate foe. This pissed off his majesty and he said his Death was the one true Death. So far as I know this has never been stated on panel. It's just Gaiman being a little b|tch@ss whiner.

i dont blame him. most of those death concepts suck. except for black flash.

Originally posted by Prep-Man
i dont blame him. most of those death concepts suck. except for black flash.

Respect Nekron and Black Racer!😈

Originally posted by zopzop Meh! Nekron and Black Racer were around before Gaiman came up with his Endless. Respect Nekron and Black Racer!😈

nekron has low showings like losing to captain atom in his own realm. black racer is just a stupid guy with skis and dc has one more Death i am not familiar with. vertigs death actually has a mini series and is much more interesting. plus hot, gothic chicks rule. Gaiman ftw.