Originally posted by bluewaterriderI guess you never used an iPhone before. And I guess you never gotten past 3rd grade math either.
"As" not "has".And please stop using meaningless phrases to pretend you somehow countered that point.
A "normal man" can speed blitz Wonder Woman like that?
Since when?And no, I'm not missing the point. Flash and company do NOT have normal human level strength and that's easy to prove.
Check out here where Flash is fighting Amazo, for instance, and decides to impale the robot with over 750 pounds of Uranium rod while runnning.Any normal man YOU know strong enough to pick up that kind of weight and carry and run with it?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So you're equating Black Flash's punches in that scan to a speed blitzing Superman's punches?**relative to their respective opponents
Show me Superman speedblitzing someone with the kind of force you think is going to drop World Breaker Hulk.
It must have happened SOMEWHERE in the comics for you to believe it will be what takes place here.
Originally posted by Diesldude
I guess you never used an iPhone before.
That's probably correct. Think I might have picked up one or two somebody lost and turned it on to get the phone number of a friend to tell them their buddy was missing one, but that's about it.
Originally posted by Diesldude
I guess you never gotten past 3rd grade math either.
Flash speed - man - to WW
Superman speed - man - to wbh
Speed cancels out and what do you have left?
man to WW in comparison to superman to wbh? Is that what you tried to convey? Or should I get a sketch pad and draw some lines for you instead?
If you've got Microsoft Paint you can use that in place of your pad and make your point because you're not making a good one here. You seem instead to be ignoring the fact that Flash is a lot stronger than any average man. You also have yet to give any evidence that Superman punches at a force per punch equal to his greatest conventional speed punches.
Perhaps you envision something like the haymaker that sent Wonder Woman cratering from the sun to the earth in Rucka's Sacrifice?
Fair enough, but you should have something in the comics to show me that kind of force from Supes while blitzing.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Perhaps you envision something like the haymaker that sent Wonder Woman cratering from the sun to the earth in Rucka's Sacrifice?
Fair enough, but you should have something in the comics to show me that kind of force from Supes while blitzing.
Well, tbh, you're the Wonder Woman expert here (don't lie, and don't be modest; you know your stuff with regards to WW).
The fact he managed to get past her defences and reflexes, and use that haymaker....and with that amount of force (try punching slowly but with power), surely would be a blitz?
For bluewaterrider's laughable claims, a mindcontrolled superman two shots captain marvel via blitzing
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/34-21.jpg
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/k508/abhilegend/Superman/34-2223.jpg
Originally posted by Zack FairYeah noticed day one when I read delta school him in superman vs WW. The lowballing he did had me believing , no joke, that he was a she and she hated men. LOL. But when he started to post in other superman related threads, it became obvious that he was another supreman hater.
Glad to see I ain't the only one who noticed Blue doesn't waste time lowballing Supes.
Originally posted by bluewaterriderI am on the iPhone, no ms paint, so I'll draw something for you when I get a chance.
That's probably correct. Think I might have picked up one or two somebody lost and turned it on to get the phone number of a friend to tell them their buddy was missing one, but that's about it.If you've got Microsoft Paint you can use that in place of your pad and make your point because you're not making a good one here. You seem instead to be ignoring the fact that Flash is a lot stronger than any average man. You also have yet to give any evidence that Superman punches at a force per punch equal to his greatest conventional speed punches.
Perhaps you envision something like the haymaker that sent Wonder Woman cratering from the sun to the earth in Rucka's Sacrifice?
Fair enough, but you should have something in the comics to show me that kind of force from Supes while blitzing.
Is someone phucking insinuating that punching with MORE speed would provide less force?
The only way that would make sense is if you sacrifice how much of your body weight you put into a punch in order to throw more.
Not the case here.
As Superman has more than enough time to throw, like, millions of full power haymakers before Hulk even thinks about blinking once.
But, maybe I was simply misreading the situation at a glance.
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Is someone phucking insinuating that punching with MORE speed would provide less force?The only way that would make sense is if you sacrifice how much of your body weight you put into a punch in order to throw more.
Not the case here.
As Superman has more than enough time to throw, like, millions of full power haymakers before Hulk even thinks about blinking once.
But, maybe I was simply misreading the situation at a glance.
You did not misread it. But I guess it makes a bit of sense with the real world - contrast chain punching in Wing Chun vs a full haymaker....
Originally posted by CosmicComet
Well yeah, that's as I described in the post.But that would only be an issue if you were fighting someone close enough to your speed that you'd have to decide between volume/speed and power.
They aren't here of course.
I guess the mechanics of punching when you're a flier is also tricky - you could augment your strength with your flying ability too, so trying to draw an analogy with the real world is useless. Sure, you could decrease the amount of bodyweight you put behind the punch - but when your flying ability enables you to get to lightspeed, that's moot.
Doesn't Clark only weigh about 225 pounds anyway??
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I guess the mechanics of punching when you're a flier is also tricky - you could augment your strength with your flying ability too, so trying to draw an analogy with the real world is useless. Sure, you could decrease the amount of bodyweight you put behind the punch - but when your flying ability enables you to get to lightspeed, that's moot.Doesn't Clark only weigh about 225 pounds anyway??
The bolded part is the one bit of comics/fiction that i don't even try work against.
I just accept as is, as its simply too entrenched all over the place to fight against.
I mean, I like to call it the 'strength equals weight' trope or some shit.
Marvel Herc weighs 300 something lbs. Not something that is outlandish for even a normal human of his size and build. Herc isn't exactly very fast--as we saw even Spiderman was faster than him noticeably.
If Herc punched the ground though, you'd know there would be a definite crater in it. Let alone simply piercing the ground.
Yet with Herc's not-so-considerable speed and normal human weight, you'd expect him to not do anything to the ground. And yet he would. So. Somehow. He's pulling some mystery component from F = M*A outta thin or air some shit. Or he's somehow making his fist magically heavier when he strikes. vin
Originally posted by Diesldude
Yeah noticed day one when I read delta school him in superman vs WW. The lowballing he did had me believing , no joke, that he was a she and she hated men. LOL. But when he started to post in other superman related threads, it became obvious that he was another supreman hater.
iPhones must be hell to post with -- you even misspelled "SUPERman" in your message above.
Delta doesn't fare so well when there are other people on the opposing side, even though he seems to spend a lot of time debating that particular topic:
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/superman-vs-wonder-woman/675416/?page=23
I am indeed a man and not a woman.
I am also not gay or bisexual, if you're wondering that.
And many, though not all, of my best friends are male, so no, I don't hate men.
