Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Waid's Hulk will actually be well written for the most part, I'd imagine.I'd like to see a more heroic Hulk for once than just Hulk being pissed at the world and shit.
Agreed.
I can see certain "fans" flipping their shit if he writes him at a more reasonable level, though.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
nobody's denying superman can use his speed to fight, but saying that equals a sure knock out on this hulk.... no bueno. it was iffy the first time it came up against savage hulk, and over the years it's getting more and more ridiculous. superman's even been completely rebooted and it still persists.it's now laughable at this point
And why is it laughable again? I've never seen Hulk take a speed-blitz from someone on Superman's level, with either his speed OR strength. Especially considering this OP placed CIS off, so we can argue him blatantly exploiting it in a hypothetical manner. Superman going all-out can kill WB Hulk considering what we've seen of him and seen of WBH.
Originally posted by Damborgson
I'm thinking that the Hulk did manage to get a flash KO off supes the first time they fought. Superman got taken by surprise and was more interested in helping the Hulk than hurting him from the looks of it, but Superman having a limp body seems more like a short KO than him just chilling there or something...
Stunned, probably. But considering he said he was annoyed when he came back, I doubt he was actually KOed, even if briefly. And he definitely was surprised, especially looking at how "well" Hulk did when Superman came back.
Originally posted by carver9
Would you like to see something amazing?Superman performs a speed blitz on Hulk.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6606762
Read the words that Superman day "after" this blitz.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6606767
Hulk didn't even throw a punch...he wasn't even phased by that tackle either.
Let's not forget this scene either.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6606691
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=6606747
😄
Oh Carter, you're silly. First-off Superman did not speed-blitz Hulk. He charged him. That's not a blitz. This is a blitz.
Secondly, you're taking your scans out of context.
Hulk doesn't look very good against a holding-back Byrne-level Superman trying to reason with Hulk. The "nearly knocked the wind" was Superman and Hulk crashing into that car after being hit by a bunch of missiles. Again, this is Byrne-level Superman trying to reason with Hulk.
Originally posted by carver9
Heat visions isnt going to work. Ice breath isn't doing a thing to Hulk. Flight don't mean anything in this battle. It's debatable if Superman could even harm this version of Hulk.
Carter, this is why we call you Carter. Heat Vision that can cauterize reality and one-shot a bunch of Top-Tiers as a SIDE-EFFECT of targeting a force-field won't do anything to Hulk? Ice breath, well it won't kill Hulk, but it'll have it's uses, especially considering what Superman has done with it at max. Fight? So a guy having much greater maneuverability won't matter, especially when Superman can take the fight into space? The OP said no "BFR" not that Superman couldn't move the fight to another battlefield. And don't bother bringing-up Gladiator or any shit like that.
Originally posted by Endless Mike
While I agree that Superman wins, to be fair he can't steal speed, vibrate through objects to make them explode, BFR people into the speedforce, time travel, or do all of the other tricks the Flash can.
Actually, he SHOULD be able to time-travel since he can do dimensional-barrier breaking speed. Dunno if he has time-traveled, but it's in his capability to. Dunno if he knows how to properly use his speed to do that, though.
Originally posted by carver9
Superman runs into an OMNI blast which stuns him and WBH then proceeds as one shotting him.
So Carter, is this "Omniblast" greater than part of 50* supernova? Oh yeah, not to mention Superman was weakened in that example.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
Even without quotes from Amadeus Cho in World War Hulk (#4, I believe) that Hulk is always "running the math", ALWAYS conscious of protecting innocents around him from fatal harm from his rampages or the actions of others, Hulk, DESPITE being a creature of rage, has demonstrated reserve against most opponents, only unleashing on those he felt could take what he dished out.
He is sparing when an opponent falls. He spares when an opponent merely weakens.
He does this several times even as Gravage in his most famous early fight against the Fantastic Four, for instance ...
Irrelevant since Hulk has just strength to hold back, Superman has a host of other powers, including a game-ending speed advantage. Which you can't get around AT ALL since CIS being off means you can't even argue how characters fight in-character. Of course, much like before, I'm expecting you to ignore all evidence disproving your claims and just say Superman loses.
Originally posted by -Pr-
If you guys aren't going to at least give this a go, then I'm going to close it.
And deprive me of seeing Blue be proven wrong and do this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMLHh8KvxVE
You're just MEAN, Pr. 🙁
Originally posted by Delta1938... deprive me of seeing Blue be proven wrong ...?
You're just MEAN, Pr ...
All I know is that, soon after your arrival, moderators start talking about shutting down threads. At least when Wonder Woman is a topic or sub-topic. That first one here on KMC? Active for 2 years.
2. Years. I start posting for at least 2 months, outlining exactly what I plan to do and begin doing it. Then you show up. Roughly 1 month later, the 2 year old thread closes, despite having added more than 10,000 views.
Comicvine? Same thing. The interim of the time that WonderWoman versus Superman thread got closed here on KMC.
Delta joins the Comicvine Mjolnir-stacked Wonder Woman versus Superman discussion.
Mod closes.
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/superman-vs-wonder-woman/675416/?page=23
Here? P.R. stated early on the thread that, because it involves pre-reboot Superman and not the current version, this thread is not spite, and will NOT be closed.
Now? Pr talks of closing the thread. NOT 24 HOURS AFTER YOU POST, a moderator talks of shutting down a thread that he previously had said he would keep open.
Surely this is coincidence; but surely I'll be watching to see the fate of other threads you choose to participate in from this point on.
If it's NOT just coincidence, you've got quite a talent, one I want to learn.
I'm talking about closing the thread because of the ridiculous trolling of a bunch of people. I'm not singling anyone out.
As far as Wonder Woman Vs Superman is concerned, it honestly felt like the thread was, well, finished. Not because of one person or anything like that, so please, remain on topic. That's the only way this thread is going to remain open.
Originally posted by bluewaterrider
All [B]I know is that, soon after your arrival, moderators start talking about shutting down threads. At least when Wonder Woman is a topic or sub-topic. That first one here on KMC? Active for 2 years.
2. Years. I start posting for at least 2 months, outlining exactly what I plan to do and begin doing it. Then you show up. Roughly 1 month later, the 2 year old thread closes, despite having added more than 10,000 views.Comicvine? Same thing. The interim of the time that WonderWoman versus Superman thread got closed here on KMC.
Delta joins the Comicvine Mjolnir-stacked Wonder Woman versus Superman discussion.
Mod closes.
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/superman-vs-wonder-woman/675416/?page=23Here? P.R. stated early on the thread that, because it involves pre-reboot Superman and not the current version, this thread is not spite, and will NOT be closed.
Now? Pr talks of closing the thread. NOT 24 HOURS AFTER YOU POST, a moderator talks of shutting down a thread that he previously had said he would keep open.
Surely this is coincidence; but surely I'll be watching to see the fate of other threads you choose to participate in from this point on.
If it's NOT just coincidence, you've got quite a talent, one I want to learn. [/B]
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure the reason Pr closed the topic about Superman VS Wonder Woman was because of you. He outright stated he just didn't see the point of it. And the reality is, you stuck to your stance despite OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE against you, and you virtually provided no evidence. You were proven wrong, and did nothing but plug your ears and drown out the noise.
Comicvine? There was a mob mentality against me. Those posters were doing the same tactics as you, only they didn't even bother to try and act like adults. And if you pay attention, the mod who closed it did not single me out as a reason for closing it. And that's not even mentioning her PMs with me about one of the posters who was arguing with me definitely didn't paint him in a very good light, so no, I am not the one to blame entirely.
This thread? Why would it be anything but a coincidence?
Also, there's plenty of other threads I've participated in both on here and on Comicvine that did not get closed. You're focusing on a small percentage and painting it as the usual. Much like you do when lowballing Superman.
EDIT:
Originally posted by -Pr-
I'm talking about closing the thread because of the ridiculous trolling of a bunch of people. I'm not singling anyone out.As far as Wonder Woman Vs Superman is concerned, it honestly felt like the thread was, well, finished. Not because of one person or anything like that, so please, remain on topic. That's the only way this thread is going to remain open.
Oh look, Blue. I was right about Pr for both this and the other thread.
And just to prove my point, here's the mod's post before closing the thread on Comicvine.
"I can't believe how long this has gone on. [/I] There are about ten people in this thread that I would like to give warnings to , but in place of that, I am just locking this down. "
So you're 0-3 right off the bat, without even bringing-up all the other threads I've been in that haven't been closed.
Originally posted by Delta1938i've yet to see a blow from new earth superman strong enough to beat that hulk, and you can apply all the speed blitz stuff you can dream up.
And why is it laughable again? I've never seen Hulk take a speed-blitz from someone on Superman's level, with either his speed OR strength. Especially considering this OP placed CIS off, so we can argue him blatantly exploiting it in a hypothetical manner. Superman going all-out can kill WB Hulk considering what we've seen of him and seen of WBH.
DCnU superman, whom is part of the thread now gets accidentally killed
Originally posted by psycho gundam
i've yet to see a blow from new earth superman strong enough to beat that hulk, and you can apply all the speed blitz stuff you can dream up.DCnU superman, whom is part of the thread now gets accidentally killed
Didn't see my scans of Superman killing Uncle Sam with a Power Ring, didja?
