Health Care Upheld - Welcome to Socialism

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Gotta keep Ontario contained.

Canada is several times the size of Turkey, as well.

In other news the flags are kinda similar though.

Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
Gotta keep Ontario contained.

Canada is several times the size of Turkey, as well.

we really don't have to patrol it though. For instance, I believe the entire border with America is unguarded.

I'd be interested in the numbers when we aren't in Afghanistan though

Originally posted by inimalist
we really don't have to patrol it though. For instance, I believe the entire border with America is unguarded.

I'd be interested in the numbers when we aren't in Afghanistan though

But can't you also see russia from your house?

Originally posted by inimalist
canada spends more on its military than turkey?

diminishing returns much?

Man, I never say that I'm all in with Canada's military budget. The F-35 fiasco is a joke.

Originally posted by Bardock42
But can't you also see russia from your house?

We already beat their ass on the ice, it's enough for us. 🙂

Originally posted by Bardock42
But you would be eliminating a lot of the cost of health care you have right now. Both pharma industries and doctors would be taking a (well deserved) cut.

Noticing those benefits will take 5-10 years to realize. Even then, we still will not lower our costs, per person, to France's level, any time soon.

Originally posted by Bardock42
If this is to be believe in 2009 it's $4000. To put that in perspective it is more than DOUBLE what France pays (by total expenditure of GDP it is 47% more.

The number I am referring to is something like...what the government spends, not the total or whatever.

Originally posted by Bardock42
At any rate I don't see any reason why cost would increase by half the military spending.

Well, we could not implement systems like that and spend the same ratios for several reasons:

We have more people, our standard of living is higher, and higher base medical costs (which will take decades to finally level out).

Originally posted by Bardock42
You'd have to reroute the current private spending into taxation of course, the money has to come from somewhere.

The rich.

Yeah...the rich. mwhahahahahaaaaa

Originally posted by inimalist
For instance, I believe the entire border with America is unguarded.

Myth.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Myth.

I mean beyond the border guards. Like, "undefended" I should say.

Originally posted by Bardock42
But can't you also see russia from your house?

its like 4000 km from my house...

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
Man, I never say that I'm all in with Canada's military budget. The F-35 fiasco is a joke.

the plane that has no practical use for our military, wont work in the arctic and that we have no idea about the overall cost of...

If you look at the link I gave Lord Lucien, it describes 5-6 other projects that are essentially in the exact same place. We are trying to acquire a bunch of new equipment, and all of it is bogged down with delays and problems.

Originally posted by inimalist
I mean beyond the border guards. Like, "undefended" I should say.

There are Canadians civilians who sit in lawchairs along the border to catch American college students trying to cross the border, or so I hear.

Originally posted by inimalist
its like 4000 km from my house...

Originally posted by dadudemon
Noticing those benefits will take 5-10 years to realize. Even then, we still will not lower our costs, per person, to France's level, any time soon.

The number I am referring to is something like...what the government spends, not the total or whatever.

Well, we could not implement systems like that and spend the same ratios for several reasons:

We have more people, our standard of living is higher, and higher base medical costs (which will take decades to finally level out).

The rich.

Yeah...the rich. mwhahahahahaaaaa

I reject your assessment of the situation!

how is it unconstitutional?

especially when compared to Taxes in general. >_>

Dunno much about politics. Doesn't this force you to buy health care though? That's kinda not cool.

Originally posted by TacDavey
Dunno much about politics. Doesn't this force you to buy health care though? That's kinda not cool.

afaik it forces you to buy insurance if you can afford it.

And offers credits and rebates to help people pay for it.

Also, considering the fact that insurance companies are now capped on how much money goes towards overhead expenses and profits (80% must go towards paying for medical care), rates won't go up since companies can't price-gouge us.

You are exempt from having to pay for health insurance if the amount of money it would take to pay for it is more than ten percent of your total monthly income, or something like that.

Originally posted by inimalist
its like 4000 km from my house...

the plane that has no practical use for our military, wont work in the arctic and that we have no idea about the overall cost of...

If you look at the link I gave Lord Lucien, it describes 5-6 other projects that are essentially in the exact same place. We are trying to acquire a bunch of new equipment, and all of it is bogged down with delays and problems.

And I totally agree with that.

If I was the PM, I'd cut in that shit. Why investing in military when our neighbor is the USA? And anyway, who the heck want to attack Canada? It doesn't make sense.

Originally posted by Bouboumaster
And I totally agree with that.

If I was the PM, I'd cut in that shit. Why investing in military when our neighbor is the USA? And anyway, who the heck want to attack Canada? It doesn't make sense.

Hey, who wouldn't want to get a hold of the Best System On The Planet, from the Best Country On The Planet?