Health Care Upheld - Welcome to Socialism

Started by Digi17 pages
Originally posted by BlackZero30x
The government was created to SERVE the people now it's the governments saying if you don't like what we want we do it anyways. We can be held responsible for voting people in that think this way but as everyone knows most people in politics are liars. The point is people get in these "positions of power" and want to abuse it while it is us the people that are suppose to have the power...heck we are even suppose to be allowed to force people out of the government (as long as it is a majority) and bring in new people we find fit.

I was referring to the grammar, spelling, and ridiculous run-on-ness of the sentence, not the content. But ok.

In other news, my current facebook status confuses Obamacare with Kony in what I'm hoping is a just-sincere-enough statement to anger people. I'm hoping for some epic trolling in the next few hours.

Originally posted by Digi
In other news, my current facebook status confuses Obamacare with Kony in what I'm hoping is a just-sincere-enough statement to anger people. I'm hoping for some epic trolling in the next few hours.

...😂 Oh you.

Originally posted by Digi
In other news, my current facebook status confuses Obamacare with Kony in what I'm hoping is a just-sincere-enough statement to anger people. I'm hoping for some epic trolling in the next few hours.

What was the exact quote because I would love to plagiarize your status. 😄

Originally posted by Digi
I was referring to the grammar, spelling, and ridiculous run-on-ness of the sentence, not the content. But ok.

ahh makes sense.

Though considering this is a Forum and not any form of important document I hadn't thought to much of it as long as you knew what I was saying.

I will say though I do often get caught up in Run-on sentences due to my excitement while typing/writing. I don't blame you though some people just care more then others. I will put more thought into my grammar when speaking to you if you wish.

Originally posted by dadudemon
What was the exact quote because I would love to plagiarize your status. 😄

"Have you guys seen the story all over the news today? Apparently this Kony guy is a big deal. Now he's violating the US Constitution too!"

The idea is that, they'll be like "Hope this isn't serious..." then I'll follow it up with more ignorance.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
ahh makes sense.

Though considering this is a Forum and not any form of important document I hadn't thought to much of it as long as you knew what I was saying.

I will say though I do often get caught up in Run-on sentences due to my excitement while typing/writing. I don't blame you though some people just care more then others. I will put more thought into my grammar when speaking to you if you wish.

Gracias. If it helps, there's also a fair amount of (admittedly anecdotal) evidence that you're taken more seriously on the internet when you use proper grammar.

I'll say this: FDR was for universal Healthcare, LBJ was for it, and most of the countries that have better overall health statistics than the U.S. have a much more socialized style of healthcare. Besides that, all the whining over socialism invading our country is idiocy. As others mentioned, how do the detractors think that Police, Fire, Public Schools, Libraries, etc function? Everyone pays into it.

Taiwan: EVERYONE pays into healthcare, NO ONE can opt out, much better access to doctors and healthcare than here in the U.S. I can only hope this being upheld moves us closer and closer to a system in which people don't die or suffer from ailments simply because they can't afford coverage. It's messed up as hell that with all the resources available it still comes down to people saying they aren't willing to do what it takes to make sure everyone gets the care he or she needs.

@peach
@inimalist

instead of me quoting you both I will just "speak at you" because that's a lot to quote lol

so what you are saying is that it would be a negative reinforcement if I perhaps hit my dog with a newspaper in order to get it to do something as opposed to stop doing something?

If thats the case couldn't it be argued that I am trying to get my dog to poop outside as opposed to on the couch?

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
@peach
@inimalist

instead of me quoting you both I will just "speak at you" because that's a lot to quote lol

so what you are saying is that it would be a negative reinforcement if I perhaps hit my dog with a newspaper in order to get it to do something as opposed to stop doing something?

If thats the case couldn't it be argued that I am trying to get my dog to poop outside as opposed to on the couch?

No, that is positive punishment.

You are still adding in an action there - the action of hitting the dog.

The positive/negative of it depends solely on what the person doing the reinforcing does.

Wiki article which is pretty good.

Originally posted by Digi
"Have you guys seen the story all over the news today? Apparently this Kony guy is a big deal. Now he's violating the US Constitution too!"

The idea is that, they'll be like "Hope this isn't serious..." then I'll follow it up with more ignorance.

lol

You're such a troll. I do not have the patience to execute such a complicated troll scheme. When I troll my friends, it has to be quick and easy. 😄 (Back in the day...we called this a prank. Prank has now become "trolling" for some reason).

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
@peach
@inimalist

instead of me quoting you both I will just "speak at you" because that's a lot to quote lol

so what you are saying is that it would be a negative reinforcement if I perhaps hit my dog with a newspaper in order to get it to do something as opposed to stop doing something?

I know people hate it when I answer for them but...

Now, it is positive punishment: not negative reinforcement.

The agent is adding an action to the system to get a behavior to stop (or to get a behavior to be executed).

In order for it to be negative punishment, the agent would have to remove something from the system such as food. It is only "effective" if the dog responds to the removal of the food.

Hope that makes sense.

Originally posted by Digi
Gracias. If it helps, there's also a fair amount of (admittedly anecdotal) evidence that you're taken more seriously on the internet when you use proper grammar.

no problem! lol

Meh. lol I'm not all that worried about it because I don't take most things on the internet serious.

@peach
@dadudemon

ok I think I get the point. If the dog chews on it's food bowl and you take the bowl away it's negative reinforcement. If you smack it on the nose it's positive. Positive because giving the dog anything (even a smack on the nose) is positive and taking away is negative.

wait...how did we come to training dogs?

If only this law was actual socialism, it would have been much better than what it is now. Still a huge improvement over the immoral and embarrassingly dated and selfish way it used to be, though.

When I saw this on the news I started singing O Canada.

Originally posted by BackFire
If only this law was actual socialism, it would have been much better than what it is now. Still a huge improvement over the immoral and embarrassingly dated and selfish way it used to be, though.

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh, look at Backfire dropping some truth!!!

Wow, "the way it used to be" hahah, what a sheep. Yeah The fading American dream is fading ever faster, right in front of our eyes. This guy, Backfire, has the gull to stand up and support obamaCOMMUNISM. Communism RULES !!!communism RULES, Sieg HEIL OBAMA...SEIG HEIL OBAMA!!!...say it with me know, kitties...., I pledge allegience To the flag For which it stood, And the third Reich for which it now stands. HEIL BAMA!!

Originally posted by jinXed by JaNx
Wow, "the way it used to be" hahah, what a sheep. Yeah The fading American dream is fading ever faster, right in front of our eyes. This guy, Backfire, has the gull to stand up and support obamaCOMMUNISM. Communism RULES !!!communism RULES, Sieg HEIL OBAMA...SEIG HEIL OBAMA!!!...say it with me know, kitties...., I pledge allegience To the flag For which it stood, And the third Reich for which it now stands. HEIL BAMA!!

lol

Originally posted by BackFire
Still a huge improvement over the immoral and embarrassingly dated and selfish way it used to be, though.

I don't know if it is really an improvement at all. I wanted a system that was similar to France's. Obviously we'd have to cut the military budget in half and raise taxes to do that...but it would be an actual "major" improvement over the system we have now.