Originally posted by Digi
Interesting that a lot seem to be concerned with method or intent. If we were doing this via utilitarian philosophy, we'd just do a body count. For example, despite his epic body count, Joker's total pales in comparison to, say, Thanos. That he does it for more intellectual reasons does not justify it more, imo.So Joker might be more evil, but his acts are not the most evil.
Originally posted by Digi
Interesting that a lot seem to be concerned with method or intent. If we were doing this via utilitarian philosophy, we'd just do a body count. For example, despite his epic body count, Joker's total pales in comparison to, say, Thanos.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankemperor joker actually makes his body count much higher even though it didn't count for anything in the end.. well not really.
Joker's a good candidate just because of his very personal method of committing such evil acts. Plenty of people have higher body counts or operated on grander scale, but not many people go so far out of their way to commit evil just for the lulz. Personally, I subscribe to the theory that Joker's not actually crazy - well, he's obviously crazy - to the point where he can't make informed decisions over right and wrong. He knows what he does is horrible and revels in it. Worse, he tries to get others to embrace that aspect. All that crap about him not being responsible for his own actions is just that: crap.People like Thanos and Darkseid are certainly evil in their own ways, too (Darkseid being more so, imo) and have gladly committed cosmic level atrocities, but for the two of them, they're usually means to an ends. Darkseid wants to eradicate free will and imagination and gain absolute control over all life, which to me, is more heinous than simply wanting to eradicate most of the universe (which is still phucked up).
I'd like to throw out Bullseye as a contender toward the bottom of the list, though. Red Skull, too.
We need to list some of the evil things these people have done that earns them a top 10 spot.
In the case of the Joker off the top of my head I can think if The Killing Joke where he shoots and paralyzes Barbara Gordon, takes pics of him undressing her critically injured body, then kidnaps and tortures Commissioner Gordon while showing him the pics of his daughter just to prove a good man can go crazy with one bad day like he did. F*cked up. There's also the time he mutated those fish with Joker Venom/permanent smiles and tried to patent them and then killed all the employees at the patent office simply because they told him he couldn't legally patent a natural resource. Plus the whole Jason Todd/Death in the Family arc as well as the afformentioned Emperor Joker where he ate the entire populace of China repeatedly, as well as tortured, killed, and resurrected Batman so many timed that he broke Bruce's mind and Superman had to erase the memories or Batman would have been left catatonic.
[i]LOBO has commited the crimes of theft assult murder genocide on both the planetary and universal scale.
Lobo might also be a consideration. He killed everyone on his world, and tens of thousands of others across the universe. However, I wouldn't consider him 'evil'. [/B]
So if you count that as the most "EVIL" of crimes I would say The Main Man don't make the list.
LOBO lacks the ambition to be a true Super Villian.
Originally posted by Galan007
Don't know where he stands next to the others, but Ultimate Red Skull was a sick mofo:
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12388385/r1.jpg.html
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/12388386/r2.jpg.htmlLobo might also be a consideration. He killed everyone on his world, and tens of thousands of others across the universe. However, I wouldn't consider him 'evil'.
You don't get much more evil than that...
What always stuck in my mind was moonstone. Her mother worked herself to the bone with 2-3 jobs to help send her to a good school and give her a good life only for the girl to get the moonstone and become a criminal. Than she murdered her mother(even though her mother stood by her when she became a criminal) so she could do whatever she wanted and not feel like shes owed anyone
Originally posted by whacknasty
LOL! That is a valid point... He may have just trumped Doom in another field 😄
Yeah I think the most evil acts are those acts not acted upon. Like in saving private ryan when the journalist guy punked out and didn't prevent his friend from getting stabbed in the neck....
