Sodam Yat Ion vs Thor/Hulk

Started by PillarofOsiris10 pages

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
I'm not lowballing Prime by using his fights with Conner as evidence. He's clearly more powerful than him, but even bloodlusted, he can't one shot kill or KO him. And that's been the case every time they've fought.

Thor's endured worse than Yat did against Prime. Easily, actually when you look at his history. Hulk's faced worse than that, too.

Would you admit that it's POSSIBLE that Prime could one-shot current Thor?

And again, Yat also got impaled by lead, so it's hard to judge how long he would have lasted. But what are some examples of Thor enduring more than being punched that many times by a guy whose punches have retconned reality? I guess off the top of my head, Celestial blasts would be one example. But what were you thinking of? (No shields).

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Would you admit that it's POSSIBLE that Prime could one-shot current Thor?

And again, Yat also got impaled by lead, so it's hard to judge how long he would have lasted. But what are some examples of Thor enduring more than being punched that many times by a guy whose punches have retconned reality? I guess off the top of my head, Celestial blasts would be one example. But what were you thinking of? (No shields).

Current Thor doesn't disbar all of Thor's past feats, so I find it unlikely that in a forum setting Prime one shots him. It's possible Prime could do it, sure, but highly improbable.

Thor's been attacked by Glory, crazy Odin, Mangog, Thanos, Surtur, and other vastly powerful beings and hasn't been one shotted. And Prime's retcon punches mean nothing in terms of an actual fight. His fists didn't reality manipulate Conner or Yat or Superman or any of the beings he battled. And he certainly can't retcon reality on a whim, not without context. Mjolnir's effected reality before under its own power; doesn't mean Thor can reality warp his enemies.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Current Thor doesn't disbar all of Thor's past feats, so I find it unlikely that in a forum setting Prime one shots him. It's possible Prime could do it, sure, but highly improbable.

Thor's been attacked by Glory, crazy Odin, Mangog, Thanos, Surtur, and other vastly powerful beings and hasn't been one shotted. And Prime's retcon punches mean nothing in terms of an actual fight. His fists didn't reality manipulate Conner or Yat or Superman or any of the beings he battled. And he certainly can't retcon reality on a whim, not without context. Mjolnir's effected reality before under its own power; doesn't mean Thor can reality warp his enemies.

Good post.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Current Thor doesn't disbar all of Thor's past feats, so I find it unlikely that in a forum setting Prime one shots him. It's possible Prime could do it, sure, but highly improbable.

Thor's been attacked by Glory, crazy Odin, Mangog, Thanos, Surtur, and other vastly powerful beings and hasn't been one shotted. And Prime's retcon punches mean nothing in terms of an actual fight. His fists didn't reality manipulate Conner or Yat or Superman or any of the beings he battled. And he certainly can't retcon reality on a whim, not without context. Mjolnir's effected reality before under its own power; doesn't mean Thor can reality warp his enemies.

Thor seems to do better against energy based attacks than physical ones for some reason.

Context also works the other way as well. Prime being out of sunlight for a long time, having just flown through 300 miles of willpower, going through a red sun, etc, etc, etc. Many of the times his punches don't do crazy things like retcon reality can also be explained/excused.

Prime's fists seem to get that effect from pure physical force, which is insane, whereas Thor's hammer does so via it's mystical abilities (that's how I read those examples anyway). I could be wrong, but as far as I know, Thor hasn't shattered reality, on his own, by sheer physical force.

Back on topic, the last thing I'll say here is that IMO Yat has a VAST speed advantage over these two. With a GL ring only, his energy manipulation ability is maybe half of Thor's, with the Ion power, it surpasses his. As a daxamite, he has a definite strength and durability edge on Thor, and probably Hulk as well. If he stays in the air and makes it Thor vs him one on one, and then takes on the Hulk after, he wins easily. OR If he uses his speed to it's fullest extent, he wins easily.

If Thor and Hulk work as a team, the fight stays on the ground, and Yat doesn't use his speed, and brawls it out, and Thor uses some exotic powers, sure, they could MAYBE get a win here and there. Those are big ifs IMO. That's all there is to say, for me, if you don't buy my arguments, we have to agree to disagree I guess. Time for bed.

Lol at Yat being stronger than Hulk...lol at them even being comparable in strength, especially current Hulk. If this fight goes physical once, he is done for and him fighting in character, that is bound to happen.

I agree with Coach Carter.

Originally posted by Mindset
I agree with Coach Carter.

😕

What's wrong?

Originally posted by Mindset
What's wrong?

Who would name themselves coach Carter? I didn't see anyone in here by that name posting.

You are Coach Carter.

Schooling these fools one by one.

Go get em, buddy.

Originally posted by Mindset
You are Coach Carter.

Schooling these fools one by one.

Go get em, buddy.

Sigh*

Team 8/10

Yat has some amazing feats before He became ION.

Add his Daxamite power with the power of Ion is too much.

But he was shown to be kind of a rookie handling Ion's power

I think Yat has good chances of winning this. if He fights and performs like the amazing rookie he was wearing the ring.

Here vs several manhunters and a Yellow ringer

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/GreenLanternCorps016-12.jpg

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Kills ring wielder

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/GreenLanternCorps016-25.jpg

Takes a huge explosion that kills Ranx

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/GreenLanternCorps016-27.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/GreenLanternCorps016-29.jpg

Takes a fetal stage AM blast other Gl's dies but not him

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/GreenLanternCorps017-2425.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/GreenLanternCorps017-26.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/GreenLanternCorps017-27.jpg

Prime can probably one-shot current Thor and hit him so hard that he also classic Thor gets koed.

Classic Hulk is the one that's riding around being all bald and drawn terribly by Dillon, right?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Classic Hulk is the one that's riding around being all bald and drawn terribly by Dillon, right?

He looks more like a cross between Lou Ferrigno and Kojak than Hulk, the art is horrible.

Originally posted by biensalsa
Yat has some amazing feats before He became ION.

Add his Daxamite power with the power of Ion is too much.

But he was shown to be kind of a rookie handling Ion's power

I think Yat has good chances of winning this. if He fights and performs like the amazing rookie he was wearing the ring.

Here vs several manhunters and a Yellow ringer

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/GreenLanternCorps016-12.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/GreenLanternCorps016-14.jpg

Kills ring wielder

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/GreenLanternCorps016-25.jpg

Takes a huge explosion that kills Ranx

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/GreenLanternCorps016-27.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/GreenLanternCorps016-29.jpg

Takes a fetal stage AM blast other Gl's dies but not him

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/GreenLanternCorps017-2425.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/GreenLanternCorps017-26.jpg

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu200/biensalsa/DC%20COMICS/GreenLanternCorps017-27.jpg

You really think those feats justify Yat soloing Thor and Hulk?

Either Thor or Hulk solos. Yat is overrated.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You really think those feats justify Yat soloing Thor and Hulk?

Well, he did say that was BEFORE the ion power... So I don't think he's using it to justify him soloing the team.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
You really think those feats justify Yat soloing Thor and Hulk?

Those feats are pre-upgrade.

If you consider the power boost then He has good chances of winning.

But I believe for him in order to win, he will have to take one of the fighters out fast.

I think the Team has better chances if both keep attacking together.