Thor VS "Phoenix" Emma Frost

Started by TheGodKiller5 pages

Originally posted by "Id"
Its not always about power. I think the X-Men verse has made that clear through out its series.

Emma has very few experiences, in dealing with the inter-workings of a God Mind. Rachel has had plenty.

IIRC , some of the TP tricks that Rachel learnt as Phoenix , were courtesy of Emma Frost .
Which god(ling)'s mind has Rachel invaded ?

Not to mention that by being amped by 1/5th of the equivalent of all the psionic energy in existence , Emma's base telepathic power should be boosted to a level where experience would be meaningless .

As an example : Franklin Richards in his first encounter with the Mad Celestials , was able to "hear their thoughts" w/o even trying , and when they attempted a mindrape , he exiled them from his mind with relative ease .
Now he isn't an experienced telepath , from what I know , but his raw power is so much that above-skyfather Godlike beings can be thrown out of his mind by the simplest whim .

So Emma has both the experience AND the power .

You see what I am getting at ?

Highly impressive TP resistance feat from Thor.

Originally posted by zopzop
Odd fight. Anyone find it strange that Rachel sans PF can get into Thor's mind and not get disoriented, yet Emma with PF exclaims 'oh god' as if she can't handle what she sees?

Looks like she was playing with him and then she got bored and put her foot down...............literally.

From what it appears , Rachel was only attempting to do so , while Emma actually managed to go into his mind , before being pushed out .
WITH Rachel :-
Thor : "I can feel you trying to invade my mind ."

WITH Emma :-
Thor : "Out of my head , witch."

Keep in mind that the avatar is still a very human, with a human psyche.

Because Rachel was exposed to the Phoenix Force longer than Emma. She. understands the inter-working of a God Mind better than the Blonde bomb shell.

Thats the big reveal, in Rachel's recent encounter with Thor.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Highly impressive TP resistance feat from Thor.

Poor Smashing and Piercing resistance though. 😉

Originally posted by "Id"
Keep in mind that the avatar is still a very human, with a human psyche.

Because Rachel was exposed to the Phoenix Force longer than Emma. She. understands the inter-working of a God Mind better than the Blonde bomb shell.

Thats the big reveal, in Rachel's recent encounter with Thor.

Except for that , in terms of overall experience , I'll go with Emma all day .

Originally posted by Sundipped
You would think they'd stay consistent and add one more ko to the list.

Well how about that. They did stay consistent. 😎

Originally posted by carver9
I want Thor to win, especially since Gladiator took out one and then handle two by himself but more than likely, Thor will probably lose.

😂 Funny how some things (Glads showing) come back to haunt you. Hoped you learned a lesson from premature assumptions.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Highly impressive TP resistance feat from Thor.

I'd say that feedback/sensory overload crap from Daredevil is a better resistance feat against Psylocke.

Hasn't Thor had a history of strong mental resistances? I know Warrior Madness Thor's mind was almost impossible to invade.

On the other hand however, he has been mentally enslaved by Moondragon, so a Phoenix empowered "omega-level" telepath like Emma really should've had no trouble.

What's with these writers all crapping on telepathy for both Betsy and Emma? It's like they're obsessed with making sure the fight remains physical only...

Originally posted by Glorificus
I'd say that feedback/sensory overload crap from Daredevil is a better resistance feat against Psylocke.

Hasn't Thor had a history of strong mental resistances? I know Warrior Madness Thor's mind was almost impossible to invade.

On the other hand however, he has been mentally enslaved by Moondragon, so a Phoenix empowered "omega-level" telepath like Emma really should've had no trouble.

What's with these writers all crapping on telepathy for both Betsy and Emma? It's like they're obsessed with making sure the fight remains physical only...

Didn't see any of DD vs. Psylocke.

His history is kind of all over the place, tbh. Generally, though, before this fight, I'd say Thor's will would be enough to resist a normal Emma. The fact that he forcibly threw an amped Emma out of his mind is one of his best mental feats I've seen, though.

Considering Thor's will, especially when angered, enables him to do things such as endure a barrage of Celestial attacks or forcibly summon Mjolnir to his location from Earth, and in the process, cleave through dimensions, I'd say such a feat is acceptable for Thor.

Originally posted by "Id"
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Nice. 😮‍💨

Good God at how they're basically whoring Thor out.

Thor shatters Emma's diamond form enhanced by Phoenix and then is too stupid to look up at the atmospheric Phoenix diamonds that are coming at him full speed.

Meh. Better than other showings. Although he got a savage beating in the end.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Meh. Better than other showings. Although he got a savage beating in the end.

The beating is meaningless, he's been beaten before. I love how she told him she was gonna have him on all fours and grab him by his hair. Cosmic strap-on for the the win! And she could have done it too.

Originally posted by zopzop
The beating is meaningless, he's been beaten before. I love how she told him she was gonna have him on all fours and grab him by his hair. Cosmic strap-on for the the win! And she could have done it too.

What killed it was when she said I expected more thunder. Utter humiliation.

thor nails her =)

It's been the trend, Thor talks smack then promptly gets smashed. And let's place odds on who stops a Mjolnir swing next. My money is on Thanos.

Thor= mid-meta, at best.

Originally posted by Harbinger
Thor= mid-meta, at best.

Agreed.

An arguably high meta like Tony has been outperforming him.

😐

Originally posted by Tar-Antado
It's been the trend, Thor talks smack then promptly gets smashed. And let's place odds on who stops a Mjolnir swing next. My money is on Thanos.

Thanos has already stopped Mjolnir dead in it's tracks.

Thor losing to a Phoenix powered opponent is fine. No shame in that. It'll piss me of if Hulk comes out of nowhere and thunderclaps the Pf out of the five.