CIS off Surfer vs Superman/Wonder Woman

Started by Sr J-Bieb5 pages

Originally posted by keiththegreat
Just asking your opinion here: If Supes and Thor stood toe to toe and they each traded blows, ie Thor punches Superman as hard as he can, then Superman punches Thor, how long do you think Thor would last? How many punches?
A billion.

This thread is amusing. Superman caves surfer's head in if thor can dent it and skuttlebutt can knock him senseless.kinda

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Stop using non canon sources in debates

Technically it is canon as it has been subsequently referenced in canon comic books since then in both DC AND Marvel. Though it is against the rules on KMC to use it as evidence, so yeah, it shouldn't be brought up.

Superman being twice as strong as Thor is hardly a stretch.

It's a lot more believable than the implication that Superman is stronger than Thor because he can lift 'infinite weight', which obviously would imply that Thor cannot, which in turn implies that Superman is infinitely stronger. 😐

2x is a positively sane, and arguable difference on the other hand.

Hulk has infinite weight fts and Thor has done just fine against him. The logic you all are throwing out there is ridiculous.

Originally posted by CosmicComet
Superman being twice as strong as Thor is hardly a stretch.

2x is a positively sane, and arguable difference on the other hand.

If that was the case then the dials would have gone up to 20

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk has infinite weight fts and Thor has done just fine against him. The logic you all are throwing out there is ridiculous.

The Hulk isn't as strong as Superman, and we've all seen what happens when Thor tries to brawl him.

Originally posted by Inhuman
If that was the case then the dials would have gone up to 20

How do you know the dials are linear and not exponential in nature?

It could be like the Richter scale.

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Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
The Hulk isn't as strong as Superman, and we've all seen what happens when Thor tries to brawl him.

The Hulk is stronger.

Originally posted by carver9
The Hulk is stronger.

The imaginary version of the Hulk that exists only in your mind is also stronger than Odin, he is a skyfather after all.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
The imaginary version of the Hulk that exists only in your mind is also stronger than Odin, he is a skyfather after all.

When did I say Savage Hulk was stronger than Odin? When did I say any Hulk was stronger than Odin? Just because Savage is stronger than Superman doesn't mean I think he is stronger than a skyfather. Why am I arguing with a guy that thinks Superman is twice as strong as Thor?

Infinite weight, black holes in heads, throwing mini blacks holes. Yeah this one has the makings of a classic.

Originally posted by abhilegend
This thread is amusing. Superman caves surfer's head in if thor can dent it and skuttlebutt can knock him senseless.kinda
SS's head being dented didn't do anything.

Also, no.

Originally posted by Mindset
SS's head being dented didn't do anything.

Also, no.


Yeah, it denoted that his durability is around thor level or lower if thor can dent his head in. Yeah skuttlebutt knocked him senseless. Superman caves his head in.

Except that it doesn't, since he wasn't affected by it.

Also, no.

Originally posted by Sr J-Bieb
Ugh. This whole thread.

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Carver, you deserve a slap on the head for this thread.

Originally posted by Mindset
Except that it doesn't, since he wasn't affected by it.

Also, no.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yeah, it denoted that his durability is around thor level or lower if thor can dent his head in. Yeah skuttlebutt knocked him senseless. Superman caves his head in.

Thor headbutting the Silver Surfer and denting his head obviously affected him. It's pretty stupid to say it didn't. Obviously it didn't KO him, but it clearly affected him. If the writer intended to show Thor's headbutt had no affect, he wouldn't have shown the dent. He would have shown Thor's face bloody, and the SS casually shrugging it off.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Thor headbutting the Silver Surfer and denting his head obviously affected him. It's pretty stupid to say it didn't. Obviously it didn't KO him, but it clearly affected him. If the writer intended to show Thor's headbutt had no affect, he wouldn't have shown the dent. He would have shown Thor's face bloody, and the SS casually shrugging it off.
He did casually shrug it off.

So...

Superman and Wonder Woman might have a chance to beat Surfer. It depends if Surfer has knowledge of Kryptonite or Red Sun radiation.