Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Technically it is canon as it has been subsequently referenced in canon comic books since then in both DC AND Marvel. Though it is against the rules on KMC to use it as evidence, so yeah, it shouldn't be brought up.
Where was it referenced in marvel? Im not doubting you since I dont claim to have read every comic book but id like to see it
Originally posted by Sixth_Winged
I was under the assumption under neutral settings means silver surfer won't be creating 616 kryptonite that will be useless to superman.Am I wrong?
As far as cosmic awareness didn't surfer know gladiators weakness beforehand due to prior kbowledge and not from cosmic awareness? Does SS actually say he used cosmic awareness to find glass weakness? Can the surfer change an entire stars color? Don't red stars have to be super large do wouldn't it destroy the earth? Also superman flew thro a red star SMS survived a crash to a planet
Originally posted by abhilegend
Rules of both universes apply here and as of now kryptonite doesn't exist in marvel universe. Even in dc kryptonite from other realities doesn't affect kryptonians. Like below
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Afaik neutral setting means the reality where both combatants are fighting at behaves exactly like their own reality.
If Silver Surfer can only transmute kryptonite that is pretty much useless against superman, then superman isn't getting treated as "local" of this reality.
Can I get any mod to confirm this or is any Kryptonite Transmutation is basically useless against Superman?
And a side note, the scan doesn't really establish all the other realities' kryptonite besides the one in the scan can't affect superman.
Originally posted by pym-ftw
All that scan says is that that realitys k radiated differentSurfer could just release radiation with a correct wavelength
Prime has the same immunity, as kryptonite from Superman's universe won't affect Prime, as do other kryptonians from other universes. That's not the only instance of that being stated.
Originally posted by quab
True cosmic awareness, but I guess he can just use red sun radiation. It'd be tough for Superman to win. Surfer would probably win here.
Red Sunlight doesn't affect Superman as fast or to the degree some people here are making it out to. By the time the Surfer was done with doing hat, Superman would have caved his head in.
I was also under the impression that the Surfer knew Gladiator's weakness because of prior knowledge and not "cosmic awareness". Although I could be wrong, if someone can show a scan of that scene.
And not only does kryptonite from other universes not affect Superman, but synthetic kryptonite has been shown to have a variable affect on him as well, sometimes weakening him, and sometimes not so much. (although this is admittedly inconsistent). Even still, Superman has survived exposure to A LOT OF KRYPTONITE, even fighting prime while surrounded by it and red sunlight.
