Porn addiction

First off, if you think addiction is strictly a substance related issue then I suggest you watch this video first:
YouTube video

Any repetitive behaviour which an organism craves with decreasing reward and has potential long term negative effects is an addiction. If you wish to stop a habit but can't, you may be addicted. It's related to damaging dopamine receptors in the brain forcing more dopamine production for the brain to achieve the pleasure associated with that behaviour to satisfy the craving. (Try saying that all at once)

http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/your-brain-on-porn-series explains why porn is a real addiction that can affect many adolescents and adults to repeatedly masturbate at home instead of using their biological urge to reproduce.

It's very interesting as many people would consider masturbation to be perfectly normal. However, we live in a digital world full of stimulating videos which the primitive 12 year old monkey brain has not evolved to be ready for.

Porn is good for you, man.

I have childhood trauma..lol

I love sex. Im a stressful person. I would have wanted love but sadly love didnt choose me back.

I've had addictive behaviour to work as well, people (get attached to quickly) and tv..

This guy reminds me of an old adrian brody..hehe

Addictions suck and porn is one that can destroy you pretty thoroughly considering that there is so little discussion of it being a real issue. There's also the fact that it's almost impossible to completely avoid seeing it in some form and it's so easy to access. I certainly wasn't looking for porn the first time I came across it in middle school, and some ridiculously graphic porn at that. Anyway, I hope that those who need help get it before it's too late.

Originally posted by Ascendancy
Addictions suck and porn is one that can destroy you pretty thoroughly considering that there is so little discussion of it being a real issue. There's also the fact that it's almost impossible to completely avoid seeing it in some form and it's so easy to access. I certainly wasn't looking for porn the first time I came across it in middle school, and some ridiculously graphic porn at that. Anyway, I hope that those who need help get it before it's too late.

I once saw a guy masturbate himself to death. Not a pretty sight.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
I once saw a guy masturbate himself to death. Not a pretty sight.

Were you also beating it during your observation?

Originally posted by Ascendancy
I hope that those who need help get it before it's too late.

You shouldnt say that because you dont know peoples history, you dont know the rejections the humiliations or pains they went through to become a ****, a whore or a callboy.

Often people judge without knowing, we see a **** and think she must be garbage and lower class to do what she does, we never wonder what led her to that lifestyle. I use to work with homeless youth, some did used their bodies in the wrong way. Never say you wont be in their shoes because you never know how life will turn out.

I use to tell myself that would never be me that would never be me. My parents raised me right, I went to the right schools, never dropped out never was bad but I got my heart broken alot.

I love sex. I use people and they use me. Am I better for it, probably not but I dont care about them and they dont care about me. Morality is useless in this world and people should stop pointing fingers at each other.. no one is perfect.

What the hell are you talking about dude? I'm saying I hope that people who are so addicted to porn that it is destroying their lives get help before it is too late. I'm judging no one. Doesn't sound like whatever you have is going on is making you to happy yourself.

Originally posted by rudester
no one is perfect.

I'm double perfect.

I am...infinitely more perfect than anyone or anything, double stamp it, anti-quitsies?

I am infinitely more perfect than all of you, but only on days that end in 'y'.

Originally posted by parenthesis
First off, if you think addiction is strictly a substance related issue then I suggest you watch this video first:

if pornography isn't a substance, what are you claiming then?

are you saying people become addicted to the behaviour of chronic masturbation? because if so, pornography is only a facilitator, not the addiction proper. If pornography is the addiction proper, then it is a substance, as it is something outside the body that produces the effect in the brain.

Originally posted by parenthesis
Any repetitive behaviour which an organism craves with decreasing reward and has potential long term negative effects is an addiction. If you wish to stop a habit but can't, you may be addicted. It's related to damaging dopamine receptors in the brain forcing more dopamine production for the brain to achieve the pleasure associated with that behaviour to satisfy the craving.

thats... well, its not a medical definition, but ok, its manageable. Basically, you are defining addiction as some type of compulsive behaviour that one performs in lieu of potential personal harm from it.

the... the dopamine part is a bit sloppy. Technically, something doesn't have to damage them (I'd be surprised if pornography or masturbation did anyways, you are referring much more to cocaine or meth), and you are sort of mixing perseverance behaviours with learning effects on reward vs cost, but I'm being pedantic 😛

Originally posted by parenthesis
(Try saying that all at once)

dawwwwww, muffin. Try explaining the dopamine inhibitory loops through the basal ganglia 😉

Originally posted by parenthesis
porn is a real addiction that can affect many adolescents and adults to repeatedly masturbate at home instead of using their biological urge to reproduce.

so, just to clarify, you are saying the problem with porn is that it causes teens/adults to masturbate instead of trying to get laid?

1) that doesn't even meet your requirement for addiction, as there is no real potential harm that comes from that

2) especially for young teens, this almost seems preferential, don't you think? wouldn't you rather your 13 year old daughter masturbate than go out cruising for dick?

3) you don't see masturbation as part of a healthy sex life and a necessary part of sexual development?

4) you need to clarify if what you are talking about is addiction to masturbation or addiction to pornography. For instance, you might be able to argue [I wouldn't] that the context of viewing pornography produces some aberrant activation in the basal ganglia or amygdala not present during sex, and therefore one can engage in a healthy sex-life outside of porn, however, if the addiction is to the chemical response one gets from masturbation, they will get addicted to sex. They produce the literal, exact same activation in the brain in terms of reward, except that sex is more intense. You have basically said that someone should try to kick their morphine habit by trying heroin.

Originally posted by parenthesis
It's very interesting as many people would consider masturbation to be perfectly normal.

These "many people" would include the consensus of scientists involved in studying such things.

Originally posted by parenthesis
However, we live in a digital world full of stimulating videos which the primitive 12 year old monkey brain has not evolved to be ready for.

a-actually, the one thing the 12 year old monkey brain has literally developed for is sex. If there is a single thing that 12 year old development has readied the organism for, it is sex. Maybe not the repercussions of having a child in a modern social context, but sex? Evolution has crafted that child's mind for little else.

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This is a really silly OP, to be frank. Addiction to anything is bad, but this seems just to be a preachy moralistic approach rather than anything concerned for an individual's psychological health. Like, it seems to suggest that the answer to porn addiction would be "go get laid", which is equally as ignorant as, but more problematic than, telling a depressed person to "just get over it"

Originally posted by Ascendancy
porn is one that can destroy you pretty thoroughly

ini, do you believe in the existence of sex addiction?

Beware to witness THE TERROR that is porn addiction.....

Originally posted by Omega Vision
ini, do you believe in the existence of sex addiction?

sure

not in the way the media presents it, though. That, by in large, is just showing that power and money can get women to throw their panties at you.

sex addicts make incredibly poor choices [hitting up "pick up bars" and literally banging whatever they can], are at major risk of being the victim of sexual crimes, stds, etc. They can't maintain normal, non-sexual relationships, let alone a romantic relationship, and it isn't just a matter of them cheating or whatever, it is, literally, they cannot help the compulsion to have sex, even when it risks their closest social relations [so, a girl would bang your friend, not because she even likes or is attracted to them, but, in the same way a heroin addict can always find a vein even if it means shooting in the neck]. Sex addicts do not like sex.

Its hilarious when someone like Tiger Woods comes out and claims sex addiction, because it almost glamorizes it. Its like some masculine power fantasy, where they are so addicted to sex that they have to have enjoyable sex every night with attractive women. Like, I hate to do a gender critique of the media [re: shooting fish in a barrel/dead horse], but the way society looks at "sex addiction" is essentially the most male-centric sexual fantasy one can think of, as if being a sex addict made life as though you starred in a porn.

Originally posted by inimalist

WTF kind of porn is that guy watching!?

Originally posted by inimalist

He needs to start using the other arm.

Originally posted by inimalist
if pornography isn't a substance, what are you claiming then?

Originally posted by inimalist
are you saying people become addicted to the behaviour of chronic masturbation? because if so, pornography is only a facilitator, not the addiction proper. If pornography is the addiction proper, then it is a substance, as it is something outside the body that produces the effect in the brain.

Originally posted by inimalist
thats... well, its not a medical definition, but ok, its manageable. Basically, you are defining addiction as some type of compulsive behaviour that one performs in lieu of potential personal harm from it.

Originally posted by inimalist
the... the dopamine part is a bit sloppy. Technically, something doesn't have to damage them (I'd be surprised if pornography or masturbation did anyways, you are referring much more to cocaine or meth), and you are sort of mixing perseverance behaviours with learning effects on reward vs cost, but I'm being pedantic 😛

Originally posted by inimalist
dawwwwww, muffin. Try explaining the dopamine inhibitory loops through the basal ganglia 😉

Originally posted by inimalist
so, just to clarify, you are saying the problem with porn is that it causes teens/adults to masturbate instead of trying to get laid?

1) that doesn't even meet your requirement for addiction, as there is no real potential harm that comes from that

2) especially for young teens, this almost seems preferential, don't you think? wouldn't you rather your 13 year old daughter masturbate than go out cruising for dick?

3) you don't see masturbation as part of a healthy sex life and a necessary part of sexual development?

4) you need to clarify if what you are talking about is addiction to masturbation or addiction to pornography. For instance, you might be able to argue [I wouldn't] that the context of viewing pornography produces some aberrant activation in the basal ganglia or amygdala not present during sex, and therefore one can engage in a healthy sex-life outside of porn, however, if the addiction is to the chemical response one gets from masturbation, [b]they will get addicted to sex. They produce the literal, exact same activation in the brain in terms of reward, except that sex is more intense. You have basically said that someone should try to kick their morphine habit by trying heroin.

These "many people" would include the consensus of scientists involved in studying such things.[/b]

Masturbation isn't the problem. Repetitively masturbating to pornography at your computer daily in your late teens, is. Sex and socialising go hand in hand, (hahahahahahahahaha) if the organism relies on the intense stimulation of videos at the computer and their own knowledge of their body at a stage when the rational part of the brain is undeveloped, then I don't see that person having a lot of sex (male or female). Regular sex won't be as intense or pleasurable. That organism needs images and a certain way to get off as that's how it's been their entire life.

I'm talking about the extreme here to make my case. 😉

Originally posted by inimalist
a-actually, the one thing the 12 year old monkey brain has literally developed for is sex. If there is a single thing that 12 year old development has readied the organism for, it is sex. Maybe not the repercussions of having a child in a modern social context, but [b]sex? Evolution has crafted that child's mind for little else.[/b]

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Originally posted by inimalist
This is a really silly OP, to be frank. Addiction to anything is bad, but this seems just to be a preachy moralistic approach rather than anything concerned for an individual's psychological health. Like, it seems to suggest that the answer to porn addiction would be "go get laid", which is equally as ignorant as, but more problematic than, telling a depressed person to "just get over it"