Ozymandias vs...Black Panther

Started by Silent Master16 pages
Originally posted by h1a8
[B]True, but it is how you beat them up that determines whether you can beat an A list fighter.

As it doesn't even take close to D list skill to beat a couple of Z listers, you're wrong.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So if I fight an old lady, and, due to her slow reaction times, I can afford to do flashy Jet Li Wushu moves, without receiving a single scratch.....

I'm ready to take on Pacquiao? Ok.

It depends on if you really look like Jet Li in my eyes. You must perform maneuvers that are on par with Jet Li.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
So how did Ozy handle those chumps in such a way to suggest he could handle T'Challa? Makes no sense.

He show that he has some type of extra sense (like spider sense) and blocked the stab attempt without looking (he sense the attack perfectly).

He caught a bullet from about 5ft away. That's insane.

He became like CA when he blocked a laser beam (timed perfect) with a metal dish and threw the dish exactly at Night Owls nose (perfect aim) while dodging the laser beam smoothly.

Originally posted by Silent Master
As it doesn't even take close to D list skill to beat a couple of Z listers, you're wrong.

True but what does that have to do with what I said?

Originally posted by h1a8
He show that he has some type of extra sense (like spider sense) and blocked the stab attempt without looking (he sense the attack perfectly).

He caught a bullet from about 5ft away. That's insane.

He became like CA when he blocked a laser beam (timed perfect) with a metal dish and threw the dish exactly at Night Owls nose (perfect aim) while dodging the laser beam smoothly.

And this is enough to overcome the vast wealth of T'Challa's feats against foes with impressive feats of their own?

Originally posted by h1a8
True but what does that have to do with what I said?

Ozy doesn't have the skill feats to beat Black Panther.

Originally posted by h1a8
It depends on if you really look like Jet Li in my eyes. You must perform maneuvers that are on par with Jet Li.

Yes, but due to the lady's speed, I don't have to perform them at top speed - maybe think more tai chi, but crucially, at the speeds tai chi is practiced in the park.

I then take photographs of me at every stage of my old lady trouncing. So that at any one point in time, I have picture perfect posture, style, etc. My technique in the picture is flawless.

And then, Manny returns home, to find me standing over his mother's body.

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
And this is enough to overcome the vast wealth of T'Challa's feats against foes with impressive feats of their own?

Yup and I'll prove it.

With the bullet catching feat Ozy proved that he has the necessary speed and timing to respond to BP's attacks.

With the schooling he proved he has a high degree of accuracy, smooth dodging abilities, and extra sensory abilities to counter attacks he can't even see.

Originally posted by h1a8
Yup and I'll prove it.

With the bullet catching feat Ozy proved that he has the necessary speed and timing to respond to BP's attacks.

With the schooling he proved he has a high degree of accuracy, smooth dodging abilities, and extra sensory abilities to counter attacks he can't even see.

With those feats, he might be able to beat a Hand Ninja 1/10.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes, but due to the lady's speed, I don't have to perform them at top speed - maybe think more tai chi, but crucially, at the speeds tai chi is practiced in the park.

I then take photographs of me at every stage of my old lady trouncing. So that at any one point in time, I have picture perfect posture, style, etc. My technique in the picture is flawless.

And then, Manny returns home, to find me standing over his mother's body.

You don't understand, posture/style doesn't prove anything. You have to do incredible movements (like block the ladies attack perfectly from behind and hit the lady with a Frisbee dead smack on the nose from a distance while at the same time dodging the ladies laser with smoothness.)

Originally posted by h1a8
You don't understand, posture/style doesn't prove anything. You have to do incredible movements (like block the ladies attack perfectly from behind and hit the lady with a Frisbee dead smack on the nose from a distance while at the same time dodging the ladies laser with smoothness.)

But what he's saying it, even if he does all that the fact that it's an old lady with shitty reflexes makes it much less impressive and doesn't prove he can take on real life pros.

gimme a shitty opponent who's slower then me and I'll look a lot more impressive then i actually am at martial arts.

Originally posted by Silent Master
With those feats, he might be able to beat a Hand Ninja 1/10.

How so?
The bullet feat gives speed fast as or faster than any A list fighter. It also gives reactions and durability to at least their level.

Second, the ability to throw something with deadly accuracy and at the same time dodge a light speed attack with smoothness is priceless.

Finally, not even hand ninjas have spider sense where they can block attacks without looking.

Originally posted by jalek moye
But what he's saying it, even if he does all that the fact that it's an old lady with shitty reflexes makes it much less impressive and doesn't prove he can take on real life pros.

But he didn't beat the Lady in an impressive way to convince me.

...when has Jet Li done that???

I was only trying to appear like how he would be able to move. In order to convince you that I could take on a top fighter.

I do see your point, I do. IYO, Ozy has the means, and the method to do what is needed - skills PLUS speed. Problem is, whilst he may have the speed, we all doubt he has the skills to do so. Because he was only tested by a brawler and a washed up has been.

Originally posted by h1a8
But he didn't beat the Lady in an impressive way to convince me.

But how would you tell? From the photographs I sent to you (because you're weird like that, I don't know) it looks like the lady is moving at speed when she tries to stab me, and yet, I twist at the perfect moment, and disable her. She throws a (very slow) punch, and I expertly deflect it whilst spinning in mid air, because I have all the time in the world.

Then when I've finished crouching in her tiger, and hiding my dragon, her son comes home.

Originally posted by h1a8
How so?
The bullet feat gives speed fast as or faster than any A list fighter. It also gives reactions and durability to at least their level.

No, it doesn't.

Second, the ability to throw something with deadly accuracy and at the same time dodge a light speed attack with smoothness is priceless.

What are the accuracy feats of the person shooting at him?

Finally, not even hand ninjas have spider sense where they can block attacks without looking.

Blocking an attack from a Z list fighter isn't the same as blocking an attack from someone like Black Panther.

Originally posted by h1a8
Either Rorschach or Nite Owl would make Cap struggle. Both would beat Cap for a slight or split at least.
after this post absolutely nothing u say on this subject can be taken seriously.

How will rorschach beat somebody that can dodge bullets, out run bullets and dodge lasers in zero gravity, move so fast he is a blur and consider one of the best h2h combatants every, he couldnt even hang with ozy and cap is superior than ozy!!?

Originally posted by h1a8
He show that he has some type of extra sense (like spider sense) and blocked the stab attempt without looking (he sense the attack perfectly).

He caught a bullet from about 5ft away. That's insane.

He became like CA when he blocked a laser beam (timed perfect) with a metal dish and threw the dish exactly at Night Owls nose (perfect aim) while dodging the laser beam smoothly.

the bullet catch is impressive, but but it doesn't come close to putting him in panthers league. the other ones aren't even close to what ur trying to make them look like. Since when does it take spider sense to hear someone sneaking up to choke u from behind? and since ozzy is a genius and has known rorschach for years he probably had some idea as to what he might do. also, when ozzy blocked the stab, in the first panel hes glancing over his shoulder when rorschach is grabbing the fork, so it seems like he knew it was coming.

and when he blocked the laser, night owl basically warned ozzy and he already had the platter in his hand, in front of his torso and was turning before night owl fired. not really as amazing as ur trying to make it seem. And him hitting night owl in the face with it from 5 feet away is hardly comparable to Caps shield throws, its closer to a 9 year old with a frisbee. and he didnt do both at the same time, he blocked the laser, then threw the platter. two seperate actions,

I wonder what would have happened if that gunman was a bit further away and fired more than one shot.