How is this thread still open? Ozymandias caught a bullet and beat up a fat guy along with a street brawler while BP fights hordes of Hand ninjas, A-listers like Cap, Iron Fist, and Wolverine on a daily basis and this is still up for discussion? Speaking of Nite-Owl and Rorshach, I cant think of one comic book hero that couldnt beat those two idiots. Seriously, not one. If anybody can think of any, please help me out.
This is an all time low even for H1a8.
Originally posted by tkitna
How is this thread still open? Ozymandias caught a bullet and beat up a fat guy along with a street brawler while BP fights hordes of Hand ninjas, A-listers like Cap, Iron Fist, and Wolverine on a daily basis and this is still up for discussion? Speaking of Nite-Owl and Rorshach, I cant think of one comic book hero that couldnt beat those two idiots. Seriously, not one. If anybody can think of any, please help me out.This is an all time low even for H1a8.
Originally posted by tkitna
How is this thread still open? Ozymandias caught a bullet and beat up a fat guy along with a street brawler while BP fights hordes of Hand ninjas, A-listers like Cap, Iron Fist, and Wolverine on a daily basis and this is still up for discussion? Speaking of Nite-Owl and Rorshach, I cant think of one comic book hero that couldnt beat those two idiots. Seriously, not one. If anybody can think of any, please help me out.This is an all time low even for H1a8.
You underrate catching a bullet, timing light speed attacks, throwing things with supreme accuracy while dodging super fast attacks, and having spider sense I see.
Again it is how you beat them up and not that you beat them up.
Originally posted by Raptor22
and when he blocked the laser, night owl basically warned ozzy and he already had the platter in his hand, in front of his torso and was turning before night owl fired. not really as amazing as ur trying to make it seem. And him hitting night owl in the face with it from 5 feet away is hardly comparable to Caps shield throws, its closer to a 9 year old with a frisbee. and he didnt do both at the same time, he blocked the laser, then threw the platter. two seperate actions,
But in reality it's impossible to time light. He actually reacted to a light speed attack. If Ozy would have raised the dish a few moments before the fire then Nite Owl would have aimed somewhere else. It was more like 15-20ft away (not 5ft).
No, I said he dodged the laser while throwing the dish. Night Owl's aim was changing since Ozy was blocking the dish. Ozy moved his body is body away from where Nite Owl was changing his aim and threw the dish with supreme accuracy and speed.
Originally posted by Raptor22
the bullet catch is impressive, but but it doesn't come close to putting him in panthers league. the other ones aren't even close to what ur trying to make them look like. Since when does it take spider sense to hear someone sneaking up to choke u from behind? and since ozzy is a genius and has known rorschach for years he probably had some idea as to what he might do. also, when ozzy blocked the stab, in the first panel hes glancing over his shoulder when rorschach is grabbing the fork, so it seems like he knew it was coming.
What has BP done skillwise to put him higher than catching a bullet and fighting as if he has spidey sense.
Originally posted by the DarkoneCap barely dodged a bullet once before and he never outran a bullet (that's the wrong interpretation of the feat).
How will rorschach beat somebody that can dodge bullets, out run bullets and dodge lasers in zero gravity, move so fast he is a blur and consider one of the best h2h combatants every, he couldnt even hang with ozy and cap is superior than ozy!!?
Rorshach is a beast, not Cap's level but clearly nothing to mess with.
So, no spider sense...but he used reflections to warn him.
He also knows the characters of R and NiteOwl, and knows that R will likely stab him in the back.
Nite was also holding back with the shot, and was telegraphing his aim pretty clearly.
Nite Owl also has slower reflexes, and therefore won't be able to dodge ANYTHING thrown at him (my example of the old lady).
I thought you only used non-PIS feats, h1?
Fact remains that multiple street level characters have better speed feats and catching a single bullet.
1) Daredevil, Gambit, Typhoid Mary have all deflected bullets back at the person shooting.
2) Gambit and Taskmaster have caught bullets IIRC without being injured
3) Nightwing, Cap, and Gambit have all dodged mulitple lasers at the same time
Hell, I could probably add a dozen street level charactes to the dodged lasers list, but if 3 examples aren't enough to counter his 1 example....then he's just trolling.
Originally posted by h1a8
You underrate catching a bullet, timing light speed attacks, throwing things with supreme accuracy while dodging super fast attacks, and having spider sense I see.
Again it is how you beat them up and not that you beat them up.
These are things BP does in practically every appearance, yet you dont bother to mention that. Ozy doesnt have spider sense like your claiming either. He has precise calculations if anything. He clearly saw the reflection when he blocked the fork attack too, so your making that out to be much more than what it was.
BP steamrolled the F4 and Avengers so I take it he's far superior to them right? After all, its how you beat them, not that you just beat them.
I'm asking again, can anybody think of any comic book hero that couldnt take Nite-Owl or Rorshach? Yeah, I cant either.
This thread is bordering on lunacy at this point.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Fact remains that multiple street level characters have better speed feats and catching a single bullet.1) Daredevil, Gambit, Typhoid Mary have all deflected bullets back at the person shooting.
2) Gambit and Taskmaster have caught bullets IIRC without being injured
3) Nightwing, Cap, and Gambit have all dodged mulitple lasers at the same timeHell, I could probably add a dozen street level charactes to the dodged lasers list, but if 3 examples aren't enough to counter his 1 example....then he's just trolling.
Ok, let's see. Do you think that Ozy can catch a bullet only because he practiced catching a bullet (not sure if a person can do that lol) and not because it is a product of his exceptional fighting ability?
The only non A lister fighters that can catch bullets are non humans (mutants, aliens, etc.). For a pure human to do it definitely means that human has the finest fighting skill possible.
Deflecting a bullet is far easier than catching one. Think of baseball. I can hit a 90mph fastball consistently but would hardly have a prayer trying to catch one with my bare hands.
And you are referring to aim dodging when you say dodging multiple lasers, not reacting to a laser after it has been shot and then dodging.
Lastly, how do you determine who is an A lister fighter? Is it who they fought? If that is the case then what determines if who they fought was a worthy enough opponent? That's right, it must always go back to beating up multiple thugs in the streets. Right? Otherwise, I can keep asking the question until we get to the root of the source.
Rorshach is a beast and can beat up hordes of thugs almost with the same ease as Batman at times. Thugs usually have the ability to beat the average human pretty easily. Night Owl might have been slightly fat but that doesn't hinder his skill that much nor his timing. He was still capable of beating up a horde of thugs with decent ease.
Bottom line, Ozy is an A list fighter. He wouldn't be able to catch a bullet if he wasn't. This is because he never practice catching a bullet but acquired the skill as a product of his training to be an exceptional fighter. At least, he would give BP one hell of a fight.
Proof of spider sense, in H1's reckoning, as it came up behind him with him even needing to look.
Of course, another explanation was that he accurately predicted its movements, having studied it over the years and knowing its movement patterns, then extrapolating, but no, we're going with spider sense.