Best herald energy projection feat

Started by abhilegend10 pages
abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by psycho gundam
dismissing your illogical stance on the feat

Who cares?

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

you apparently do

anyway, spectre wins the thread

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by carver9
A holding back Surfer. The compliments Superman gave was genuine.

Surfer was not holding back as evidenced by his patented "Mine is the power cosmic". Like I said he is a nice guy giving compliments so that marvel characters don't feel inferior.

Endless Mike Sqirrel Girl fanboy

That crossover is non-canon anyway, so does it really matter?

(Some Mxy fans though say every Mxy appearance is canon somehow)

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by psycho gundam
you apparently do

anyway, spectre wins the thread


Now you're just desperate. Its ok though, you can hate superman even more.

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

lol, so defensive

(another inexplicable hulk retort is coming)

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Endless Mike
That crossover is non-canon anyway, so does it really matter?

(Some Mxy fans though say every Mxy appearance is canon somehow)


Yeah, that is non canon. Though GL/Silver surfer seems to be canon. Parallax put hank in source wall after hank traveled to MU after his banishment in Trial of superman in that crossover which was shown in Genesis.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by psycho gundam
lol, so defensive

(another inexplicable hulk retort is coming)

Originally posted by abhilegend
Now you're just desperate. Its ok though, you can hate superman even more.

carver9 Senior Member
Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer was not holding back as evidenced by his patented "Mine is the power cosmic". Like I said he is a nice guy giving compliments so that marvel characters don't feel inferior.

Surfer wasn't blasting with his best.

Those compliments was meant to be said because they were true. He is a nice guy but that doesn't take away from what was said.

😛

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

it has nothing to do with superman, you could swap him out for cyclops and the big bang would still have occurred with the other factors in that process

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by carver9
Surfer wasn't blasting with his best.

Those compliments was meant to be said because they were true. He is a nice guy but that doesn't take away from what was said.

😛


Why would be that? Because you said so? Surfer was explicitly not holding back, he doesn't always destroy planets not holding back in fact he was nearly killed destroying a moon while heavily amped and releasing all of his power. Like I said he is a nice guy, superman was once amazed at The Atom's "incredible power".

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by psycho gundam
it has nothing to do with superman, you could swap him out for cyclops and the big bang would still have occurred with the other factors in that process

Hahaha, like I said its amusing to see marvel internet warriors squirm. Carry on, I can use some good laughs.

psycho gundam The Nightmare of Solomon

you're not laughing, though, you're agitated and are in need of solace cause you rather defend nonsense

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans
Originally posted by psycho gundam
you're not laughing, though, you're agitated and are in need of solace cause you rather defend nonsense
Originally posted by abhilegend
Hahaha, like I said its amusing to see marvel internet warriors squirm. Carry on, I can use some good laughs.
Nibedicus Gaming addict

Why you taking things so personal, man? There's no Marvel vs. DC war out there (they're both great companies that have given us great characters). Ppl just really don't see the feat the way you do. It's obvious we can't change your mind and matters of interpretation of comic plot (especially ambigious ones like this) tend to be mostly speculation anyway.

Let's just agree to disagree, shake hands and call it a day? :-)

carver9 Senior Member

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=12704275

For you abhi...enjoy.

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Why you taking things so personal, man? There's no Marvel vs. DC war out there (they're both great companies that have given us great characters). Ppl just really don't see the feat the way you do. It's obvious we can't change your mind and matters of interpretation of comic plot (especially ambigious ones like this) tend to be mostly speculation anyway.

Let's just agree to disagree, shake hands and call it a day? :-)


Its nothing personal man. Its just that I don't like hypocrites who try to downplay a character while readily accepting others. I know that I can't change someone's mind but facts are facts. In the end its all just for fun.
Originally posted by carver9
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=12704275

For you abhi...enjoy.


Lulz.

Nibedicus Gaming addict
Originally posted by abhilegend
Its nothing personal man. Its just that I don't like hypocrites who try to downplay a character while readily accepting others. I know that I can't change someone's mind but facts are facts. In the end its all just for fun.

Oh, alryt then. :-)

Still don't agree with your interpretation, but I'll just go ahead and respect it.

Peace!

Edit for spelling.

Ambient MAJIN_OVERLORD

Originally posted by abhilegend
Right, that's why you need to be explained in detail a single feat. Pardon me if I'm not so fluent in one of the most convoluted arcs in comics history. Its not your fault though, I've seen many surfer fans and almost all of them are just like you.

Convoluted maybe but the art at the end of that arc pretty much explain in itself and its far more clearer than you equating energy percentage to the Supes feat, as there is an actual depiction via on panel art evidence of Surfer acquiring a change reaction/transfer to his persona after the silvery comet (Surfer - from the Unilord Universe) connected + top this off with a similar display of his powerset acquired during his upgrade in that arc presented in his latest issue. Really the scan i presented is easy enough to understand that it required no narration of the event..
doesn't matter anyway. It was not 616 surfer and it wasn't him who merged with unilord surfer. End of story, I don't want to read that awful story again just to prove you wrong. Its not worth the effort.

It matters since you are not fully aware of what transpired in that story line and yet you lead us to believe that you have read and are quite knowledgeable of this arc.. 🙁

So what the heck is the 4 remaining pages at the end of issue 121 and the 1'st 5 pages of 122 is all about? I mean there is a freakin reason why that was even printed out, not to mention that they choose it to happened in 616 universe and not in the Unilord Universe, marvel wanted it to clearly be connected and thefore cannonised..

Maybe u should read it because its quite clear that u haven't or just browse over it and pick what u wanted to see.. 🙄

hen a group of characters do something in a comic with roughly same power level, its assumed that they contributed evenly. Simple as that. Apparently the writer thought that all three of them absorbing parallax's energies made them on superman's level otherwise there is no reason for superman to contribute his energies there. You want to say that he was there because he is superman, go ahead but that doesn't make it true.

But this just it, this individual super beings is off not similar power level specially since some of them have the ability to amp from an outside and diff. energy source adding it to they're own, which was specifically shown it happening.. This is where your logic fails, your expectation of them being of similar powerlevels.

The character involved being debated have diff. strengths and while i do agree that Superman are shown to be above this character in overall stats however not in all categories; like say energy projection and absorbtion. Lets take Capt. Atom for example his been shown to absorb energy - ex. Nekron in Limbo - draining him dry instanteneously. Since this is what we are debating off in this feat; absorption and projection its clear that this beings are not evenly equal..

Point being assigning percentage of energy output from that feat is near impossible without proper gaining more detail information, compared to what was shown at the end of Surfer 121, which was quite simple straight forward as shown on panel; Unilord Surfer coming out of the rift in the form of silvery comet and then was drawn toward 616 surfer they connect and Surfer came then exhibited powers similar to that of Unilord albeit not to the higher degree in the latter issue..

Ambient MAJIN_OVERLORD

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂
To think that you call me slow, parallax was convinced that the power damage had was enough to create the big bang

If only you could read the scans! Oh and there is no chain reaction there, waverider just funneled the accumulative energies into damage

Cap doesn't have unlimited power source outside quantum field and neither does darkstar. Spectre only came into play when damage had already reached critical mass. Nice try though.


I was right. You dont read but just browse and see what you like then forms an unbased opinion.

If you read the scan you provided its clear that Damage did not reach critical mass yet.. As evidence by Waverider's statement, " Prepare yourself Damage when you reach the proper level." Meaning he has not reach that level yet.

http://images.wikia.com/marvel_dc/images/9/92/Big_Bang_Zero_Hour_01.jpg

He only reach critical mass in the scan i provided above, when Spectre projected his own energy towards damage.

damage said,"Huh! the big guys pumping more energy into me, cant hold it in, cutting loose."

Is spectre = superman in power level? I think not.. Again your logic fails regarding equal level of power in that feat therefore your deduction is wrong..

Parallax didnt said he reach bigbang level, he said Waverider i know what ur plan. so i dont kow where you see him saying he reach bigbang level..

You do know he can call forth quantum field around him for additional energy source..

hey were absorbing the energies that made the universe they were standing in. They obviously hadn't absorbed enough when it was still pretty much intact. You can try to be able to read though, it is quite simple.

what matter is that they absorb energy to add to they're own and
since each one have far diff. absorption capabilities/capacity theyre even now far more unequal in power level therefore even energy distribution/projection is highly unlikely..

Your logic yet fails again..