Bane vs The Joker

Originally posted by juggerman
Ok i just saw The Dark Knight Rises and i can't decide if i liked Bane as a villian better than The Joker in The Dark Knight.

So i pose this question to you:

1 Who had the better plan
2 Who executed their plan better
3 Who caused Batman more pain (both physical and emotional)
4 Who was overall a better villain
5 Who was a better fit to counter Batman
6 And finally who was more closely true to their comic book counterparts?

1.) Bane
2.) Bane
3.) Bane
4.) Joker
5.) Bane
6.) I dunno, Joker I guess

1 Who had the better plan

The Joker.

2 Who executed their plan better

The Joker, although he probably doesn't care if any of his plans work as long as they cause SOME mayhem.

3 Who caused Batman more pain (both physical and emotional)

The Joker kept him out of the game for eight years. I'd say him. I simply don't accept the ending that Batman just went to Italy and retired. He'll return eventually, with a new face. 😎

4 Who was overall a better villain

I liked both just fine. The Joker is more famous and acclaimed, but that doesn't really matter. The Joker is more famous simply because he's more "out there" than Bane. It's like comparing a really famous man about town Hollywood actor vs a more reserved stage actor.

5 Who was a better fit to counter Batman

Both have their strengths and weaknesses. They're about the same.

6 And finally who was more closely true to their comic book counterparts?

The Joker. And I think Movie Bane is a huge improvement over Comic Bane.

Kind of an old thread, but I just saw TDKR last night and I feel like commenting. This is just my opinion, so don't flame me for it lol.

1. The Joker had the better plan simply because he devised it himself and wasn't executing someone else's plan like Bane was.

2. Bane pretty much took over Gotham. However, it is fair to point out that the Joker did essentially destroy Gotham's two biggest heroes (Dent and Batman obviously). He turned Dent into a murderous psychopath with nothing to live for, and destroyed Batman's reputation by pretty much forcing him to take the blame for what Harvey Dent did, and turned Bruce Wayne into a recluse. He took the one thing that both of these heroes were living for. He left Gotham without a guardian, pretty much.

3. The Joker easily. He killed Batman's one true love and reduced him to a recluse and a mentally and physically broken man who didn't see much point in living life.

4. That's a matter of opinion. I liked both but the Joker has always been my favorite villain.

5. Bane was obviously more capable of physically defeating Batman, but he never could break his spirit like the Joker did.

6. No idea honestly, I don't read comic books.

Ah forgot about this one 👆

Bane, hard.

That's just the thing. Bane has plans and weaknesses. THe Joker likes to turn plans on themselves. THe Joker has the edge in the SUPER VILLIAN department. However Bane would slap the joker silly in a fist fight. But I don't think the Joker would care much.

Originally posted by Dramatic Gecko
That's just the thing. Bane has plans and weaknesses. THe Joker likes to turn plans on themselves. THe Joker has the edge in the SUPER VILLIAN department. However Bane would slap the joker silly in a fist fight. But I don't think the Joker would care much.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Joker would be scared of Bane.

Doubtful. He wasn't scared of Dent with a gun when he had ever reason to kill him

Originally posted by juggerman
Doubtful. He wasn't scared of Dent with a gun when he had ever reason to kill him

Originally posted by quanchi112
Joker was an idiot I agree. Bane would still intimidate him. On another level than Joker. He took over the city and beat Batmans ass.

Bane would not scare Joker at all. Nothing does. He doesn't fear pain or death. He was giggling like a school girl when Bats tossed him off a building and egged Bats on to run him down. Bane could break him yes, but Bane would never get Joker to fear him

Originally posted by juggerman
Bane would not scare Joker at all. Nothing does. He doesn't fear pain or death. He was giggling like a school girl when Bats tossed him off a building and egged Bats on to run him down. Bane could break him yes, but Bane would never get Joker to fear him

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he would. Joker is nuts but is not without fear. Bane would scare the girlie man.

How do you figure he's not without fear? Nothing scared him not even his own death. Bane has nothing to threaten him with. He laughed at pain and death

Originally posted by juggerman
How do you figure he's not without fear? Nothing scared him not even his own death. Bane has nothing to threaten him with. He laughed at pain and death

You are mine again. I own you now again.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Dying did not scare him but order does. He's a being of chaos. Think, twink.

You are mine again. I own you now again.

Order scared him? Nope try again.

right

Originally posted by juggerman
Order scared him? Nope try again.

right

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, he was a being of chaos. Order scares him. Think.

Order doesn't scare him. Bane caused chaos anyway so Bane is not to be feared regardless

Originally posted by quanchi112
Dying did not scare him but order does. He's a being of chaos. Think, twink.

You are mine again. I own you now again.

Not really. Even when the people of Gotham 'proved him wrong' he basically shrugged it off. He'd likely just laugh at Bane and tell him he's trying too hard.

Originally posted by juggerman
Order doesn't scare him. Bane caused chaos anyway so Bane is not to be feared regardless

League of Shadows>>>Joker.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Not really. Even when the people of Gotham 'proved him wrong' he basically shrugged it off. He'd likely just laugh at Bane and tell him he's trying too hard.

No, he'd be intimidated by Bane. Joker was the weakest villain.

Lol, 'order'? He had criminals police the city, the cops locked up and a lunatic handing out death penalties. Joker would have laughed his ass off at Bane's 'order'. That kind of thing would tickle him pink.