Bane vs The Joker

The Joker is an agent of chaos which he even says so himself in the movie.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Bane brought a clear order to Gotham. Bane would bring order to Joker.

League of Shadows>>>Joker.

In a fight Bane clearly wins. But this isn't a fight. Joker would not fear Bane as others did either way

And?

Originally posted by juggerman
In a fight Bane clearly wins. But this isn't a fight. Joker would not fear Bane as others did either way

And?

Originally posted by Nephthys
Lol, 'order'? He had criminals police the city, the cops locked up and a lunatic handing out death penalties. Joker would have laughed his ass off at Bane's 'order'. That kind of thing would tickle him pink.

No, he would fear it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
As an agent of chaos he feats order. It is the opposite. Bane whoops him.

Not everyone fears their opposite. Bane created no order anyway

If order terrified him then the act of going to a prison would freak him out, he wouldn't be laughing the whole time.

Originally posted by juggerman
Not everyone fears their opposite. Bane created no order anyway

Originally posted by BloodRain
If order terrified him then the act of going to a prison would freak him out, he wouldn't be laughing the whole time.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So despite it being the exact opposite he'd be ok with it ? Seriously ?

I never said he be "ok with it" but he wouldn't fear it either. He didn't fear the order he was trying to destroy in TDK

Originally posted by quanchi112
He knew he was going to get out and chaos would ensue. Different.

And when did he ever show fear? :T

Originally posted by juggerman
I never said he be "ok with it" but he wouldn't fear it either. He didn't fear the order he was trying to destroy in TDK

Originally posted by BloodRain
Like 8 years later? O.o Besides he was faced with forced order being in prison and order coming back to Gotham.. how would Bane's 'order' change that.

And when did he ever show fear? :T

Joker did not fear when he allowed them to take him to jail. He was in control the entire time.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Different kind of order. It was soft. He'd fear Bane.

Bane never showed any ability to create more order than Gotham had when Joker showed up. He came around and created more chaos. Joker would probably end up killing Bane

Originally posted by quanchi112
Are you saying he is without fear ? Human beings experience fear. Quit saying silly things.

Joker did not fear when he allowed them to take him to jail. He was in control the entire time.

Actually not all humans would and not to high degrees, especially when we're talking about psychopaths. I believe there are even studies about this. This is a character who would shrug off failed plans and laugh in the face of captivity and his own death.

More to the point, why is Joker afraid of order? Order was already at its peak in Gotham right before TDK, and did he show fear from this? No, he rose his crazy ass up and threw chaos back in the mix. He doesn't fear order, he attacks it.

Originally posted by juggerman
Bane never showed any ability to create more order than Gotham had when Joker showed up. He came around and created more chaos. Joker would probably end up killing Bane

Originally posted by BloodRain
Actually not all humans would and not to high degrees, especially when we're talking about psychopaths. I believe there are even studies about this. This is a character who would shrug off failed plans and laugh in the face of captivity and his own death.

More to the point, why is Joker afraid of order? Order was already at its peak in Gotham right before TDK, and did he show fear from this? No, he rose his crazy ass up and threw chaos back in the mix. He doesn't fear order, he attacks it.

He's never seen someone enforce order like Bane has. Bane would sonn him. Joker is a joke.

😂

Originally posted by quanchi112
He created order. He was in complete control. Order.

It wasn't as we see an uprising in the making for months. And he wasn't since they were fighting back

Originally posted by quanchi112
Speculation.

He's never seen someone enforce order like Bane has. Bane would sonn him. Joker is a joke.

Facts :T And a proven one with the Joker. He doesn't fear loss. He doesn't fear capture from the law. He doesn't fear death.

Why? Explain your points. Can you show me Joker be done in by order, or is this another guess?

Originally posted by juggerman
It wasn't as we see an uprising in the making for months. And he wasn't since they were fighting back

Originally posted by juggerman
Ok i just saw The Dark Knight Rises and i can't decide if i liked Bane as a villian better than The Joker in The Dark Knight.

So i pose this question to you:

1 Who had the better plan
2 Who executed their plan better
3 Who caused Batman more pain (both physical and emotional)
4 Who was overall a better villain
5 Who was a better fit to counter Batman
6 And finally who was more closely true to their comic book counterparts?

1. Bane.
2. Bane.
3. Bane. (Joker's killing of Rachel haunted him for 8 years, but since you incldued physical pain then that tips it in Bane's favor because he emotionally and physically tortured the Dark Knight)
4. Bane was a better villain. Heath had the better performance though.
5. Bane. Obviously.
6. Joker. Bane was great until he was reduced to Thalia's dog.