Originally posted by Lestov16
How is uprooting a tree better than Hulk's fist causing a Leviathan to collapse under it's own weight?
Who said anything about the vamp feats being better than Hulk's in terms of strength? Why do you insist on making this a pure strength game?
The vamps are NOT as strong as Hulk. They are however pretty strong in their own right, and they are far far faster than Hulk. They won't beat Hulk by strength, they beat Hulk by simply being too fast for him to hit them.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Iron-man kicked Thor into a tree so hard that it exploded, to me that is far above merely knocking one over. and he's the weakest of the big 3.
Ironman used his thrusters to propel him into Thor. His flight and thrusters gave him additional momentum. However if he was standing still and kicked that tree and it exploded, then that would have really been a great strength feat.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Who said anything about the vamp feats being better than Hulk's in terms of strength? Why do you insist on making this a pure strength game?The vamps are NOT as strong as Hulk. They are however pretty strong in their own right, and they are far far faster than Hulk. They won't beat Hulk by strength, they beat Hulk by simply being too fast for him to hit them.
How do they take him down when an alien armada didn't? They don't have the strength? And didn't Iron Man keep up with a jet fighter? If he can lock onto missiles, why can't he lock onto Twi-vamps?
Originally posted by Lestov16
How do they take him down when an alien armada didn't? They don't have the strength? And didn't Iron Man keep up with a jet fighter? If he can lock onto missiles, why can't he lock onto Twi-vamps?
Near the end of the movie, that alien armada was actually beating the crap out of Hulk. If they hadn't destroyed that mothership, Hulk might have been killed or at the very least, knocked unconscious and reverted back to Banner. When those aliens all dropped dead, we see Hulk getting up very dazed and battered. Plus, I seriously hope you're not saying the chitauri are as fast, strong, and durable as the twivamps.
As for IM keeping up with a jet and a missile, that's flight speed. That's not reaction or fighting speed. Usain Bolt may be the fastest runner in the planet, but that doesn't mean he has fighting reflexes as fast as Mayweather.
IM can travel at mach 3, that doesn't automatically give him the reflexes of a cat, let alone superspeed to match the vamps.
Originally posted by Silent Master
He wasn't exactly moving that fast when he hit Thor, so the added momentum wouldn't have been very much.
Thrusters dude. Those thrusters accelerate him pretty fast. Bottom line is, he didn't shatter that tree by standing still and kicking it with a muay thai kick. He used his thrusters to launch him into Thor.
If IM hits one of the vamps with a flying kick or tackle like that? Then the vamp gets knocked off his feat, might even hurt them (if he can hit them that is).
But if they got into a grappling match, well, that's different. What are IM's best strength feats anyway?
Originally posted by Lestov16
How is uprooting a tree better than Hulk's fist causing a Leviathan to collapse under it's own weight?
It's not. When I did the math, the "varience" was about the same.
However if I had interpretted the scene as you worded it, it would put Hulk's strength feat waaaay lower at a less than 60 tonne-force (just enough to stop the front 1/4th of the armored creature). That didn't make sense and seemed to low-ball it. So I pretended it was for the whole creature.
But, Mindship pointed out that the creature looked to twice as large and twice as long so my estimate of around 400 tonne-force from Hulk seemed to still apply.
Edward's tree push feat is, at best, as hig has that, and at worst, about half that.
I believe I even stated in this thread, Hulk is around the strength of the vamps if not slightly stronger than most. He is more than strong enough to punch the head off of a twivamp.
It's the speed that is the issue.
If anyone tries to claim Hulk is not strong enough to harm a twivamp, send them my direction and I'll set them straight. 😄
Originally posted by FrothByte
As for IM keeping up with a jet and a missile, that's flight speed. That's not reaction or fighting speed. Usain Bolt may be the fastest runner in the planet, but that doesn't mean he has fighting reflexes as fast as Mayweather.IM can travel at mach 3, that doesn't automatically give him the reflexes of a cat, let alone superspeed to match the vamps.
He has systems that can lock onto supersonic missiles. Why can't he lock onto a twi-vamp?
Originally posted by Lestov16
And Iron Man is in the air. And Thor is in the air too. He can change is route instantly if need be.
Vamps got killed by the hot magma of the Earth. Thor's lightning temperatures probably exceed that, so Thor spearheads the victory against the Twitards
Agreed.
Thor's aerial electroshock feat should put many down.
Ironman's missiles should ignite some of em.
Hulk can contain them.
The others die.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Who said anything about the vamp feats being better than Hulk's in terms of strength? Why do you insist on making this a pure strength game?The vamps are NOT as strong as Hulk. They are however pretty strong in their own right, and they are far far faster than Hulk. They won't beat Hulk by strength, they beat Hulk by simply being too fast for him to hit them.
Faster than the Hulk? Lol nah they really aren't. The Hulk moves in excess of 300 MPH, these Vamps were having a hard time getting away from a pack of Wolves. The Hulk or Thor Solos.
Originally posted by Stoic
Faster than the Hulk? Lol nah they really aren't. The Hulk moves in excess of 300 MPH, these Vamps were having a hard time getting away from a pack of Wolves. The Hulk or Thor Solos.
I'm not talking about faster running. The Hulk can cover miles in a single jump. I'm talking fighting speed. Have you ever seen Hulk move this fast?