Originally posted by Placidity
No, it's not about "attempting" to rip his head off. They WILL rip his head off.Your whole argument is non-nonsensical. Banner shot himself, but somehow he lived and transformed into the Hulk. He did NOT fail the "attempt" of shooting himself, just like a Vampire wouldn't fail an "attempt" to rip his head off. The difference is, unlike merely having a bullet in his head, his head would be detached, so unless you think he can transform into a headless Hulk, he stays dead.
As for not being fast enough, FrothByte already addressed that. Especially with BD Part II feats, Banner won't even see it coming.
Hang on a second...
Can someone please elaborate on the Cullens' feats here?
Originally posted by Master HanLet me see, I'll try to remember some.
Hang on a second...Can someone please elaborate on the Cullens' feats here?
Yeah, sorry, while impressive in its own right, it pales in comparison to feats of the Hulk and Thor. Of course hardcore fanboys like dadudemon like to call me a troll for this. Yet I can't find anything in my previous post that can be considered trolling. My posts provided factual information and an unbiased opinion. And it was that the Avengers would stomp, which, if you're honest, you'd agree. Dadudemon simply couldn't come up with a solid argument against what I said, so he took the easy way out and just called me a troll. Pretty pathetic of him, and hypocritical since he's much closer related to that than I am.
Originally posted by Galactus616
Let me see, I'll try to remember some.
1. Pushed away a van with one hand
2. Pushed a good sized tree over
3. Threw Bella like a rag doll
4. Crushed a boulder with their bare hands
5. Runs in excess of 100 mph
6. Fixed a dent in Bella's truck with a single blow
7. Good agility, jumps pretty good distances
8. Are apparently bulletproof
9. Special powers: Can read minds from a distance, see the future, etc.
10. Knocked fully transformed shapeshifters down with single blowsYeah, sorry, while impressive in its own right, it pales in comparison to feats of the Hulk and Thor. Of course hardcore fanboys like dadudemon like to call me a troll for this. Yet I can't find anything in my previous post that can be considered trolling. My posts provided factual information and an unbiased opinion. And it was that the Avengers would stomp, which, if you're honest, you'd agree. Dadudemon simply couldn't come up with a solid argument against what I said, so he took the easy way out and just called me a troll. Pretty pathetic of him, and hypocritical since he's much closer related to that than I am.
So you still consider Hulk superior to the vamps despite the fact that Hulk probably can't hit any of the Cullens? Heck, Hulk couldn't even hit Thor unless it was via cheapshot or when Thor was off his feet.
Originally posted by FrothByte
So you still consider Hulk superior to the vamps despite the fact that Hulk probably can't hit any of the Cullens? Heck, Hulk couldn't even hit Thor unless it was via cheapshot or when Thor was off his feet.
Well to be fair Thor is FTL in the movie verse so Hulk not hitting him is understandable. According to Galactus616 that is
Originally posted by FrothByteI do. I seen all 5 films and I don't recall seeing one fight scene where the Cullens circled their opponents lol. Unless of course, I somehow missed it which I highly doubt. I've seen each film several times (I actually own the most recent 3), and from what I remember, the Vampires fight head on. Why do you think the Wolves can touch them? Because we've seen how slow they looked when they fought compared to the Vampires. Hulk missed Thor the first time but Thor fought him head on which eventually got him caught. The Vampires would do the same due to the way they fight. I don't know why you people doubt the Hulk's speed anyway. He's been shown to have really fast reflexes throughout the movies. You're implying that even though he's caught missiles, blocked bullets, blew away an explosion with a thunder clap, caught Thor's hammer, caught the guy trying to escape the jet, etc, he wouldn't be able to hit something that only moves 100+ mph and would be right there to hit anyway. Plus as I've said earlier, they're not going to be able to put Hulk down. And Hulk isn't the only one they're fighting here anyway.
So you still consider Hulk superior to the vamps despite the fact that Hulk probably can't hit any of the Cullens? Heck, Hulk couldn't even hit Thor unless it was via cheapshot or when Thor was off his feet.
Originally posted by juggermanIt wasn't stated anywhere in the movies. Sorry, I seen dadudemon mention somewhere that he was using the book version of the Twilight characters, so I thought it would only be fair that we use the comic book version of the Avengers characters. But even in the movie, while not directly stated to be FTL and may have not been quite that fast, Thor's been shown to move at really high speeds superior to any Twilight Vampire. Plus he can fly and summon lightning. And let's not forget Ironman and his high tech weapons and Loki who can mind control who he wants and multiply himself.
Ok then care to show me where exactly Thor is stated to move at FTL(Faster than light) speeds? And please stick to the films
Originally posted by Galactus616
I do. I seen all 5 films and I don't recall seeing one fight scene where the Cullens circled their opponents lol. Unless of course, I somehow missed it which I highly doubt. I've seen each film several times (I actually own the most recent 3), and from what I remember, the Vampires fight head on. Why do you think the Wolves can touch them? Because we've seen how slow they looked when they fought compared to the Vampires. Hulk missed Thor the first time but Thor fought him head on which eventually got him caught. The Vampires would do the same due to the way they fight. I don't know why you people doubt the Hulk's speed anyway. He's been shown to have really fast reflexes throughout the movies. You're implying that even though he's caught missiles, blocked bullets, blew away an explosion with a thunder clap, caught Thor's hammer, caught the guy trying to escape the jet, etc, he wouldn't be able to hit something that only moves 100+ mph and would be right there to hit anyway. Plus as I've said earlier, they're not going to be able to put Hulk down. And Hulk isn't the only one they're fighting here anyway.
Watch the 2nd Twilight Film again, the fight between Edward and the big Volturi. See how fast they move. Now show me a single Avenger who can fight that fast.
The twi-wolves also have some measure of super speed to them. Jacob mentions this, stating that they're fast enough to keep up with Vamps. It's even more elaborated in the books, that they do have super speed as well. But even without going into the books, I believe it's mentioned in the 2nd or 3rd film how the wolves are actually fast enough to keep up with the vamps. Want other proof of their speed? Remember how Edward crossed the parking lot to block the van from hitting Bella all in the blink of an eye? Just because you insist on ignoring the vamps's speed feats doesn't make them go away. THey have super speed, the avengers don't. Deal with it.
As for Thor vs. Hulk, Hulk was only able to get his hands on Thor when Thor was strangling Hulk and Hulk smashed them through the ceiling. Hulk recovered first and was then able to slam Thor 2-3 times on the floor and then throw him against the wall. At no other point did Hulk ever lay a hand on Thor except via cheapshots. Most of his hits were easily dodged by Thor. Blonsky also effortlessly evaded Hulk's hits... and both Thor and Blonsky are not as fast as Twi vamps.
Bana Hulk caught missiles, this is Avengers Hulk we're talking about.
Plus you forget to include the Cullens' other powers like telepathy and precognition.
Originally posted by Lestov16
The Cullens can take out Hulk when an entire alien armada couldn't?
Yeah, unfortunately, the Avengers didn't have a super-strength (edward said "thousands of times stronger" than humans) speedster on their team (based on high-end feats, the average vamp speed is 400-700 km/h).
If they did, the aliens would have been taken out hilariously quickly...like an Anime where a super Samurai flashes through a crowd, pauses, then all the heads pop off and blood squirts out. 😄