Originally posted by nij-ayias
No, overall strength, Supes always win.But I'm saying is who hits harder and more destructively.
Punching to the moon, across the country and planet does not equate to hitting harder. It's more of a pushing power.
Strongest Version of Supes will win. But the Typical Supes that's getting hit and knocked down by metahumans, my opinion is no.
Do you remember Gotenks slapping Buu to the ground, the giant crater he created, I don't see any Typical/Modern Version of Supes did that.
People just don't realize what this post mean. Lifting fts is all nice and Dandy but in a battle, punching power is far more impressive and Superman doesn't have anything close to the type of punching power DBZ characters have. Black hair Goku stomps pre reboot AND current Supes as well.
Originally posted by dvampire
Superman has to very leathal attacks, one being able to freeze you to death. There's no coming back and Goku can't regenerate dead cells, which is what will happen if he freezes Goku. Fight is over.
It's comic though dude. Instead of causing cellular death, it makes a cool body shaped outer layer of ice that can be easily broken 😛
Originally posted by dadudemonI will not search for the threads these were calculated in... I honestly don't care enough to.
Where are these numbers coming from and how were they calculated?
The mach 1,000 feat is a pretty old calc though, done of Gotenks circling the globe.
The mach 28,000 is from Buutenks and Mystic Gohan reacting a blast that was apparently that fast, albeit Endless Mike disputed it. But then Endless Mike disputes anything that harms his preconception of DBZ power. That one was relatively recent, and I don't know if it is still "considered" valid, I haven't checked.
@ dvampire: You're ****ing stupid. Goku as a child tanked a laser that was powerful enough to engage nuclear fusion and destroy an entire city. That size of laser reaches temperatures of 111,000,000 celsius, which is 7 times hotter than the suns core. He also dodged lasers of that caliber, which means he dodged photons, which move at the speed of light itself. Those beams are considered weak and slow compared to Piccolo's casual ki blast that destroyed the moon.
DBZ characters conserve energy and don't fly as fast in a line as they move when fighting. Superman can't even go that much faster than the speed of light. Goku dodged photons as a child. Goku as an adult can produce beams and move at speeds QUADRILLIONS of times faster than that. Superman gets roflblitzed like never before, and then Goku punches through his chest like it's sponge cake. I'm talking Goku when he beat Junior.
While Goku has no serious lifting feats, he could easily lift as much as he wanted when using ki. Shit, Arale lifted Mars and threw it at Jupiter for christ sake, and she was weaker than Raditz. Goku stomps on Superman's penis, turning it into paste, while he laughs at how fragile Superman is. This is still Saiyan saga Goku we're talking about. Post king Kai training Goku just makes Superman cry.
Who gives a **** about reading fast? How's that gonna help him when Goku is casually running circles around him billions of times faster than light, and he can't even conceive that someone's there? Goku stomps, the end.
Re: Superman (current) vs. Goku
@Thread starter:
-Sending heat vision to the moon being impressive, when part 1 Dragon Ball characters could easily dish out moon busting blasts.
-Blitzing Mogul who isn't even a speedster being impressive, when Dragon Ball characters are MFTL in combat.
-Goku being unable to survive lava, when fcked up Frieza pretty much tanked the explosion of an entire planet, point blank.
http://media.animevice.com/uploads/2/29816/677066-frieza_floats_half_dead_through_space.jpg
Didn't read the rest of your post, but clearly you don't know what you're talking about. I've said this before, but if Saiyan Saga Vegeta went to DC earth as a villain, he would be a HUGE threat and all of Justice League would go after him, since he could blow up the planet with a single blast. To say that Superman stands a fraction of a chance against end of Z Goku is just wrong.
P.S. Calculations are stupid as authors don't take those things into cosideration. Pixel scaling is just lmao.
@ NemeBro: Prove it.
@ TheTyrant: All of the justice league would go after him, but what would they accomplish? None of them can blow up planets with a gesture like he can, go faster than light(including Flash, because if he was faster than light, he would become part of speedforce, excluding Superman depending on the version, and only when talking about flight), and no one in the justice league could leave a scratch on great ape Vegeta if he felt like transforming.
Originally posted by carver9
People just don't realize what this post mean. Lifting fts is all nice and Dandy but in a battle, punching power is far more impressive and Superman doesn't have anything close to the type of punching power DBZ characters have. Black hair Goku stomps pre reboot AND current Supes as well.
Originally posted by carver9
By the way, it was proven some time back that black hair Goku is above light speed.
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Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Don't bother conversing with a fan girl of his magnitude, he simply won't accept that his favorite character can be bested.
At least I didn't name myself after your apparent loser. Go change you name you disgust me representing Gogeta in this meager way you have.
Gogeta has and never will be beaten. Vegetto got his ass beat down.
