Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
We are talking about time, not necessarily page count as the story was linear. But I posted all the scans anyway, I do not want anyone thinking I left anything out. The way you presented the scene, it seemed like he got the signal and got their the next page, very deceptive.That's pretty much my take, Jimmy signaled the watch and Superman heard it. Do you have any idea how long it would take a hypersonic signal to reach Vega? Superman senses in comics, whether Superman's or Thor's do not even remotely follow real life science.
Just because it doesn't follows normal science doesn't mean superman instantly heard it. There was a time lapse just like all of superman's hearing feats from outer space.
Originally posted by TheGodKillerSame as Mjolnir. Same as Orion's Astro-Harness. None of them could fly without them otherwise.
Well, it does involve his board though, considering it's part of the Surfer's standard equipment and all. /shrug
Originally posted by xJLxKingAre you implying others are inconsistent with their traveling speed?
Good travel spped that are consistent are Green Lanterns'. They all have to be able to travel from one end of the universe to the center(OA) fairly quickly. Is it the best? No, but probably more consistent
^ Sorry for the confusion. To clarify: I think Surfer traveling 500,000 light years in moments is the best mentioned so far.
I don't think portals opened by Mjolnir or Boom Tubes opened by Motherboxes count. But when you achieve hyperspace via pure traveling speed like Surfer or GLs do, it should count.
Surfer's board, Mjolnir, Astro Harness, GL rings are fair game. They may be plot devices, but they happen to be standard equipment and also, y'know, they'd be flightless without them.
Originally posted by ODG
y'know, they'd be flightless without them.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Ok.
Marathon's done so I decided to drop by and review the scans.
My one problem with this "feat" is the fact that there seems to be an undisclosed amount of time that has elapsed between Superman being in the planet where he returned the ship and the time it took for the fight to start.
In fact, the Superman's statement of:
"I heard you screaming my name as I passed Saturn"
Seems to imply that Superman was already en route long before the fight even started.
Also, how do we know that the planet he was returning the ship to WAS in the Andromeda galaxy? It sounds like the vessel was lost and was "spotted moving towards the edge of the Andromeda galaxy" but by the time the story was being narrated, he's already picked it up and returned it to its home planet and from the sound of what's happening, it was quite far away from home.
Basically, I'd need the rest of the comic to even begin to try and quantify "time elapsed".
Originally posted by TheGodKillerSurfer has a few spotty moments of levitating (likely telekinesis) and Thor does too (likely moments of wind-riding ala Storm), but 95% of the time they drop like bricks when they lose the board/hammer.
Don't know about Orion, but Surfer's flown before without his board. I believe that old idea about Thor being flightless without Mjolnir is also not valid anymore(will recheck to be sure though). Of course, it's a totally different story whether these 2 are capable of going such astronomical distances without their gear(although I am inclined to believe the Surfer could do so, just in a cruder and less efficient fashion).
I think Thor has more showings than both when it comes to being airborn without his tool. He recently did it against Surtur.
http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16039386/Avengers_Origins_-_Thor_024.jpg.html
Originally posted by ODG
Surfer has a few spotty moments of levitating (likely telekinesis) and Thor does too (likely moments of wind-riding ala Storm), but 95% of the time they drop like bricks when they lose the board/hammer.
Originally posted by leonidas
orion has flown more consistently on his own than ss and certainly more than thor w/o mjolnir. not sure what his best speed feat would be w/o harness though, and it would likley be a very old one....
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Marathon's done so I decided to drop by and review the scans.My one problem with this "feat" is the fact that there seems to be an undisclosed amount of time that has elapsed between Superman being in the planet where he returned the ship and the time it took for the fight to start.
In fact, the Superman's statement of:
"I heard you screaming my name as I passed Saturn"
Seems to imply that Superman was already en route long before the fight even started.
Also, how do we know that the planet he was returning the ship to WAS in the Andromeda galaxy? It sounds like the vessel was lost and was "spotted moving towards the edge of the Andromeda galaxy" but by the time the story was being narrated, he's already picked it up and returned it to its home planet and from the sound of what's happening, it was quite far away from home.
Basically, I'd need the rest of the comic to even begin to try and quantify "time elapsed".
Basically it was at the edge of andromeda galaxy when superman caught it and then flew up to Circunus galaxy.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman was gone for only that time. He asked supergirl to watch over metropolis, then maelstrom fought her and he reappeared. Does it matter that he was passing saturn when maelstrom screamed his name? That only shows how fast he is that he is already gone to two galaxies and returning when the fight started.Basically it was at the edge of andromeda galaxy when superman caught it and then flew up to Circunus galaxy.
Can you post the rest of the comic, tho? The real problem I have here is actually when to start the count as there is no clear transition between Superman's narrative page and Supergirl's entry into the story. For all I know it could have been seconds or it could have been days. We don't have a clear "start" point to begin the count to how much time it took. We have distance, but we don't have time.
Unlike your previous scan where that's solidly established (when Jimmy activated the watch), this one is a bit vague about it.
At least give me the issue number (I think you already have, but I'm a bit pressed for time atm so I can do my usual forum search) so I can look for it myself.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Can you post the rest of the comic, tho? The real problem I have here is actually when to start the count as there is no clear transition between Superman's narrative page and Supergirl's entry into the story. For all I know it could have been seconds or it could have been days. We don't have a clear "start" point to begin the count to how much time it took. We have distance, but we don't have time.Unlike your previous scan where that's solidly established (when Jimmy activated the watch), this one is a bit vague about it.
At least give me the issue number (I think you already have, but I'm a bit pressed for time atm so I can do my usual forum search) so I can look for it myself.
It was all that I could find on net. I don't have the comic but as I learned that Supergirl was featured in the comic from that page only, it was Maelstrom whose history we learn in the previous pages. So it would be around the same time the fight lasted that superman was gone.
Yeah, it is but what can we do?
Superman/Supergirl: Maelstrom.
Originally posted by abhilegend
It was all that I could find on net. I don't have the comic but as I learned that Supergirl was featured in the comic from that page only, it was Maelstrom whose history we learn in the previous pages. So it would be around the same time the fight lasted that superman was gone.Yeah, it is but what can we do?
Superman/Supergirl: Maelstrom.
Searched the web, too. Can't find the damned issue and friend doesn't have it (not very popular, I heard).
The only thing I was able to find that even hinted at the time elpased is in a review:
http://comicboxcommentary.blogspot.com/2008/11/review-supermansupergirlmaelstrom-1.html
"Maelstrom arrives in Metropolis during a week when Superman is away on a mission in space. He put Supergirl in charge and she initially complains of a slow week of action until something gets her attention."
The term "week" was used but I think w/o that critical page that actually discusses the time elapsed here, we don't really have much to work on to establish period here. And due to that, can neither agree on or dispute anything as I don't have sufficient information.
