Best travelling speed feats

Originally posted by ODG
Apparently what we should assume is that every time Surfer went FTL, he accessed hyperspace travel... offinbetween-panel(s)???

Superman using black holes to traverse space off-panel, nope. Surfer using hyperspace every instance he's ever gone FTL even w/o hyperspace gates opening in the scenes itself, yup. Makes sense.

There's a reason for Vastolord1234's frustration and Branlor Swift's bemusement.

Anyway, no one is seriously arguing that Surfer can't exceed light speed without going in hyperspace. He's been shown to exceed light speed without going into hyperspace plenty of times unless you consider it an retcon of some sort.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I honestly don't agree that that's what the scans say, tbh. The wording isn't THAT precise.

With all due to respect sir, but i quoted the scans, highlighted the relevant words and provided a definition for those words.

Originally posted by kevdude
Yeah right good luck proving what? That I know how to read the scans properly? That's your problem not mine or Juntai's. It is one idea.

Not my fault you lack basic reading comprehension, those scans are one liners, made clear cut, i highlighted the relevant words and provided they're definitions, AND i posted full quotes; theres nothing to argue when the quotes are clear as day.

Now you could still be in denial, but it doesnt change facts, and those facts are exactly what i quoted provided with scans.

Originally posted by ODG
Apparently what we should assume is that every time Surfer went FTL, he accessed hyperspace travel... offinbetween-panel(s)???

Surfer using hyperspace every instance he's ever gone FTL even w/o hyperspace gates opening in the scenes itself, yup. Makes sense.

There's a reason for Vastolord1234's frustration and Branlor Swift's bemusement.

While i dont agree with superman using black holes as shortcuts, as i purely believe that was supermans speed feat. I agree with everything else.

My scans are clear as day that surfer has the option of using hyperspace, and that hyperspace is only accessed after breaching lightspeed, entering FTL speeds, but a few individuals are still denying it.

Everytime hyperspace is used, its referenced and shown on panel.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It's ODG, what did you expect?
Look, who is here!

There's no need for that kind of talk.

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
With all due to respect sir, but i quoted the scans, highlighted the relevant words and provided a definition for those words.

Not to be snippy, but I can read.

Honestly, I believe Surfer can use hyperspace if he so needs to. I believe it's a mechanism of the board, sure, but I still believe it's possible to access those speeds (almost like when a GL tells the ring to take him somewhere).

I just don't think the scans you provided are as concrete proof as you say they are. They're too vague to me.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Reading comprehension fail. I was telling what I believe the point was. I have seen a few examples and read bios/handbooks saying stuff to support that, but haven't seen enough examples to conclude whether that's primarily what happens or not. I was simply pointing-out what I was pretty sure they were arguing, not pushing their argument as well. Since I've only read a few examples of that myself.

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I can read pretty well, and it's obvious reading from your post you're trying to push the ridiculous idea that "all of Surfer's speed feats are cheating." Now you're trying to pin your crazy argument to Vastolord and Juntai? Seems like you're just back peddling to save face.

Originally posted by Delta1938
Most major characters get nitpicked, but Superman gets it BAD.

Originally posted by Delta1938
I think the point isn't that he can't go FTL, but once he does and enters hyperspace, all his speed feats are "cheating" since it's not something he could do in, say, the DC Universe(not positive, just throwing it out there).

If you were a comic character, my guess is that your power would be super hypocrisy.

Originally posted by Juntai
Fail. That part was borrowed from the scan. And it meant speed of light being a law most are bound to.

I'm not talking about that one post, I'm talking about all your posts. You seem to be trying to argue Surfer can't go faster than light without entering Hyperspace based on Vastolord's scans, which don't even support you.

None of Vastolord's scans say Surfer always enters hyperspace when he goes faster than light. They don't say he can't go faster than light without hyperspace either. Mixed with the fact Surfer has gone faster than light numerous times without hyperspace, what do you think the logical conclusion is?

Why don't you stop being ambiguous and answer this simple question:

Can Surfer go faster than light without hyperspace?

Originally posted by One-Punch
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I can read pretty well, and it's obvious reading from your post you're trying to push the ridiculous idea that "all of Surfer's speed feats are cheating." Now you're trying to pin your crazy argument to Vastolord and Juntai? Seems like you're just back peddling to save face.

^ Here you whine about how Superman's feats get nitpicked.

^ Then you turn around and make this post claiming that all of Surfer's speed feats are "cheating."

If you were a comic character, my guess is that your power would be super [b]hypocrisy.

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You either proved me right, or that you're a bold liar. Or both, if you realized your reading comprehension fail when I pointed it out and are lying now to try and cover yourself.

Whatever the case, you saying I whined and calling me a hypocrite is irony of epic proportions.

Marvel fans all across the net are going into convulsions over Superman's universe crossing feat. Keep it up

Originally posted by abhilegend
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ODG made up this shit that Superman used black holes as shortcut when he flew from the end of the universe after Doomed despite both Superman's own words and the writer saying otherwise. But apparently his made up shit words trump on panel statements.

Only he's right eh little abhi? Superman does use blackholes for travel... #flashfact

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
I hate those doublestandards, breaking the laws of physics becomes a problem once lightspeed or faster is achieved? What about solar powered aliens, or silver surboard riding cosmics who look for planets to feed their masters? or entities wielding rings which can emite any light constructs? or someone whos telekinetic, or a shape shifter, or vampire etc etc...........why is lightspeed or faster the ONLY problem to physics for hypocrites?

Do you believe everything else in fiction is in accordance to the laws of physics?

Lol this thread.

If you believe one thing, back it up and don't backtrack unless you formally concede the point.

Gang mentality for the loss.

Originally posted by zom1967
Thats why I said (I hate to say this)when posters are talking about characters going even quadrillion times the speed of light(which in M.P.H is something like,670,000,000 M.P.H)I just wanted to remind posters that what they have these guys do is outstanding when compaired to the real world.I love reading comics,it`s my escape from reality.So here is a feat that may not have been used yet .Galactus tells the surfer,find the Prohemial gods for me(Agius and Tenebrus)and at first the surfer can`t sense them,then he picks them up.They are both so far away(they are at the crunch the boundry of the expanding universe)so lets assume the Surfer is half a universe away 6.85 billion light years away.He travels through hyperspace and gets there almost instantly.He could be further away or closer,still an awesome feat.

Through hyperspace only? surfer doesnt need hyperspace to travel lightyears.

Originally posted by -Pr-
There's no need for that kind of talk.

Not to be snippy, but I can read.

Honestly, I believe Surfer can use hyperspace if he so needs to. I believe it's a mechanism of the board, sure, but I still believe it's possible to access those speeds (almost like when a GL tells the ring to take him somewhere).

I just don't think the scans you provided are as concrete proof as you say they are. They're too vague to me.

The scans i posted made it clear that hyperspace is an option for entering once exceeding lightspeed, make of it what you will, but nothing gets more clear cut than that.

Heres a problem ive across, not only in this thread but the entirety of KMC, it seems like every fanbase either lowballs or downplays the other fanbases characters feats.

Hulk fanboys lowball supermans feats
Thor fanboys lowball hulks feats
Superman fanboys lowball surfers feats
Surfer fanboys lowball supermans feats
Superman fanboys lowball hulks feats
Hulk faboys lowball thanos feats
Thor fanboys lowball supermans feats

......and so on, thats clearly a problem on this thread as well.........im on 6 different forum sites on the internet, some of the largest as well, and ive never come across a forum with behavior such as that, i have nothing against the neutral fans, but good lord, each fanbase needs to stop lowballing the opposing characters feats.

Urgh. According to that, I'm a self hating Superman fanboy who lowballs my own character.

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
Through hyperspace only? surfer doesnt need hyperspace to travel lightyears.

The scans i posted made it clear that hyperspace is an option for entering once exceeding lightspeed, make of it what you will, but nothing gets more clear cut than that.

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
Through hyperspace only? surfer doesnt need hyperspace to travel lightyears.

The scans i posted made it clear that hyperspace is an option for entering once exceeding lightspeed, make of it what you will, but nothing gets more clear cut than that.

Sure it does, at least imo. As I said, I don't disagree with the sentiment. Just the scans presented.

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
Heres a problem ive across, not only in this thread but the entirety of KMC, it seems like every fanbase either lowballs or downplays the other fanbases characters feats.

Hulk fanboys lowball supermans feats
Thor fanboys lowball hulks feats
Superman fanboys lowball surfers feats
Surfer fanboys lowball supermans feats
Superman fanboys lowball hulks feats
Hulk faboys lowball thanos feats
Thor fanboys lowball supermans feats

......and so on, thats clearly a problem on this thread as well.........im on 6 different forum sites on the internet, some of the largest as well, and ive never come across a forum with behavior such as that, i have nothing against the neutral fans, but good lord, each fanbase needs to stop lowballing the opposing characters feats.

You're talking about isolated people, or tiny groups.

It's not some grand epidemic.

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
Through hyperspace only? surfer doesnt need hyperspace to travel lightyears.

The scans i posted made it clear that hyperspace is an option for entering once exceeding lightspeed, make of it what you will, but nothing gets more clear cut than that.

Thread can be summed up nicely as Beyonder is the fastest there is.

Originally posted by VastoLord1234
Heres a problem ive across, not only in this thread but the entirety of KMC, it seems like every fanbase either lowballs or downplays the other fanbases characters feats.

Hulk fanboys lowball supermans feats
Thor fanboys lowball hulks feats
Superman fanboys lowball surfers feats
Surfer fanboys lowball supermans feats
Superman fanboys lowball hulks feats
Hulk faboys lowball thanos feats
Thor fanboys lowball supermans feats

......and so on, thats clearly a problem on this thread as well.........im on 6 different forum sites on the internet, some of the largest as well, and ive never come across a forum with behavior such as that, i have nothing against the neutral fans, but good lord, each fanbase needs to stop lowballing the opposing characters feats.

Originally posted by One-Punch
Why don't you stop being ambiguous and answer this simple question:

[b]Can Surfer go faster than light without hyperspace? [/B]

It's "criminal" to suggest it's probable/logical that Superman used other black holes to help him traverse a distance of space that a prior black hole left him stranded in...

... yet out the other side of the mouth...

It's "simply a matter of reading English" to suggest every single traveling FTL speed feat that Silver Surfer has ever had in his entire history has only been the result of him accessing hyperspace.

There are no words to describe how colossally stupid and hypocritical this is. It's just insulting.