Best travelling speed feats

Originally posted by Galan007
That isn't what Superman said.

He theorized that traveling through multiple black holes may have been what eradicated the virus from his system(ergo [b]"I GUESS...") Supes did not say that he intentionally flung himself into multiple black holes exclusively for this purpose, however.

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If the writer had intended that "hey, let's write those black holes as a shortcut", he would've done so. Not left us to our imagination with direct statements like "I flew in deep space for sixty days".

This is getting ridiculous at this point.

But a Black hole is what slung him across the Universe though. Why go through them when you can avoid them? Was he purposely just flying through them just because? And even if that was possible, there's enough proof on Galan and ODG end that the black hole serves as a purpose of transportation instead of a hindrance (since again, it was a black hole that sent him on the other side of the universe).

Originally posted by abhilegend
So far the only purpose of those black holes is the implication that they eradicated the virus.

If the writer had intended that "hey, let's write those black holes as a shortcut", he would've done so. Not left us to our imagination with direct statements like "I flew in deep space for sixty days".

This is getting ridiculous at this point.

You see, I just corrected your grossly inaccurate statement. Sorry if you feel that was "ridiculous" of me. 🙂

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
ODG was merely pointing out that a black hole MAY have aided Superman in his return to earth. Why...? Maybe because the one used in Superman Doomed flung both himself and Brainiac to a undisclosed far off location. And in one scene(which you conveniently left out in your explanation to PR) has him explaining to Bruce that he flew through "a few black holes"... Possibly on his way back???
http://i.imgur.com/Zl0KPhL.jpg

And no... He did not purposely use black holes on his way back to cleanse himself.

And still no one is claiming he used black holes on his way back as fact.

Originally posted by carver9
But a Black hole is what slung him across the Universe though. Why go through them when you can avoid them? Was he purposely just flying through them just because? And even if that was possible, there's enough proof on Galan and ODG end that the black hole serves as a purpose of transportation instead of a hindrance (since again, it was a black hole that sent him on the other side of the universe).

It would be a contradiction if Superman flew through space for 60 straight days and also using a black hole to instantly get back, especially when a single one sent him there almost instantly.

Anyway, the writer doesn't state or show that Superman used black holes to get back. It rather states that it took him 60 days to fly back. Thus Superman using black holes as a short cut didn't happen.

Curing him?

It MIGHT have been what burned out the virus.

Superman didn't dive into 3 black holes for their massive curing properties.

Originally posted by h1a8
The black hole was shown on panel CURING Superman of the virus. Thus Superman's hypothesis was based off that.

It would be a contradiction if Superman flew through space for 60 straight days and also using a black hole to instantly get back, especially when a single one sent him there almost instantly.

Anyway, the writer doesn't state or show that Superman used black holes to get back. It rather states that it took him 60 days to fly back. Thus Superman using black holes as a short cut didn't happen.

The virus was wiping away before he jumped into the black hole with Brainiac. The pull of the Black hole took majority of virus. It reverted him back to Superman. That's BEFORE he went completely inside of it. And your statement doesn't go against what I said. One black hole shot him across the Universe. He jumped through many of them.

Originally posted by Galan007
Superman never stated that he flew through the black holes solely to eradicate the virus, like you tried saying. He merely theorized that the black holes may have been what cured him. Simple.

You see, I just corrected your grossly inaccurate statement. Sorry if you feel that was "ridiculous" of me. 🙂

Occam's razor and all that shit.

Originally posted by carver9
But a Black hole is what slung him across the Universe though. Why go through them when you can avoid them? Was he purposely just flying through them just because? And even if that was possible, there's enough proof on Galan and ODG end that the black hole serves as a purpose of transportation instead of a hindrance (since again, it was a black hole that sent him on the other side of the universe).

facepalm

Prove those black holes were wormholes or shut up. The first black hole was an ARTIFICIAL black hole. Now go ahead and prove.

This shit is already too long drawn.

Originally posted by krisblaze
Curing him?

It MIGHT have been what burned out the virus.

Superman didn't dive into 3 black holes for their massive curing properties.

Originally posted by carver9
The virus was wiping away before he jumped into the black hole with Brainiac. The pull of the Black hole took majority of virus. It reverted him back to Superman. That's BEFORE he went completely inside of it. And your statement doesn't go against what I said. One black hole shot him across the Universe. He jumped through many of them.

Originally posted by abhilegend
OK? But that's what was stated about those black holes
Nothing else.

Originally posted by Galan007
Superman theorized that the black holes may have been responsible for removing the virus from his being. What was never stated, or even alluded to, is that Superman flew through said black holes with the sole intent of ridding himself of the virus--which is what you initially claimed.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What did I cherry pick BTW?

When you said that was "all" they were for.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
ODG was merely pointing out that a black hole MAY have aided Superman in his return to earth. Why...? Maybe because the one used in Superman Doomed flung both himself and Brainiac to a undisclosed far off location. And in one scene(which you conveniently left out in your explanation to PR) has him explaining to Bruce that he flew through "a few black holes"... Possibly on his way back???
http://i.imgur.com/Zl0KPhL.jpg

And no... He did not purposely use black holes on his way back to cleanse himself.

And still no one is claiming he used black holes on his way back as fact.

Don't worry; i'd seen the scene already. That's why I don't conclusively lean one way or another.

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Honestly, I don't think it really matters. What's the big deal about this argument anyway? It's not like he needs it to be a speed feat or something.

The big deal is that we hate abhi.

Originally posted by -Pr-
When you said that was "all" they were for.

Don't worry; i'd seen the scene already. That's why I don't conclusively lean one way or another.

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Honestly, I don't think it really matters. What's the big deal about this argument anyway? It's not like he needs it to be a speed feat or something.

"But no, we have to nitpick it for twenty pages on no proof at all. "

The character confirmed it, the writer confirmed it. What more does anybody need for a feat?

Originally posted by -Pr-
When you said that was "all" they were for.

Don't worry; i'd seen the scene already. That's why I don't conclusively lean one way or another.

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Honestly, I don't think it really matters. What's the big deal about this argument anyway? It's not like he needs it to be a speed feat or something.

Instead of the unknown factor of how much a shortcut would help, it has to be the unknown factor of how big a universe is, and then assume Earth is at the complete edge of the other side.

Do you want unquantifiable shortcuts in your unquantifiable feat or do you just want the unquantifiable feat to stand as is?

Also I don't get how flying through space for 60 days straight overrules shortcuts either since we know he flew through the black holes and that's still flying shortcut or none... but yeah, I'm with you. It doesn't really matter either way. Superman is either mega fast or mega mega fast. Big change up that did. Stupid argument.

Originally posted by abhilegend
You are simply twisting the words. Since we're at this, was it ever alluded that superman used those black holes as shortcut?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman later said to batman that he entered a few other black holes to cleanse the doomsday virus.

Right there, in black and white, you tried saying that Superman made an explicit statement to Batman that he'd flown through the black holes for the sole purpose of ridding himself of the virus. Once more: that is a grossly inaccurate twist on the truth:
http://i.imgur.com/9CVRGRk.png
Theorizations=/=explicit statements. Simple.

As for your red herring: I, for one, have never once claimed that Superman using the black holes as a means to shorten his length of travel back to earth is an incontrovertible fact. However, I do believe it is a logical possibility. Huge difference. 🙂

Originally posted by abhilegend
Just the nitpicking to throw a feat in doubt is ridiculous. Superman had a speed feat, so what?

"But no, we have to nitpick it for twenty pages on no proof at all. "

The character confirmed it, the writer confirmed it. What more does anybody need for a feat?

Do you honestly expect to convince people when you talk like that?

You can't ***** about people twisting your words when you take liberties with the comics themselves.

Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Any sort of need or help is weakness in the feat game.

Instead of the unknown factor of how much a shortcut would help, it has to be the unknown factor of how big a universe is, and then assume Earth is at the complete edge of the other side.

Do you want unquantifiable shortcuts in your unquantifiable feat or do you just want the unquantifiable feat to stand as is?

Also I don't get how flying through space for 60 days straight overrules shortcuts either since we know he flew through the black holes and that's still flying shortcut or none... but yeah, I'm with you. It doesn't really matter either way. Superman is either mega fast or mega mega fast. Big change up that did. Stupid argument.

If only we could ban people for being petty haters...

Originally posted by Galan007
Twisting what words, exactly? This was your initial claim:

Right there, in black and white, you tried saying that Superman made an explicit statement to Batman that he'd flown through the black holes for the sole purpose of ridding himself of the virus. Once more: that is a grossly inaccurate twist on the truth:
http://i.imgur.com/9CVRGRk.png
Theorizations=/=explicit statements. Simple.

As for your red herring: I, for one, have never once claimed that Superman using the black holes as a means to shorten his length of travel back to earth is an incontrovertible fact. However, I do believe it is a logical possibility. Huge difference. 🙂

No other explanation was given to why superman flew through those black holes. Unless you want to simply speculate and ignore the on panel statement that is.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Do you honestly expect to convince people when you talk like that?

You can't ***** about people twisting your words when you take liberties with the comics themselves.

If only we could ban people for being petty haters...

You think you know better than me? Post a proof from the comic, I'll happily bow out. But this is just ridiculous.