Women vs Team Hulk

Originally posted by Stoic
You have no idea how powerful those two are do you? Alone they would wreck a team of Heralds. Together... oh boy. They are each Trans level characters, none of the punches from these women or the energy hits are going to be effective against them. Thanos smiled as the Surfer blasted him in the face, the Hulk on WB level did not feel the strikes of characters that are on the level of the most powerful women on the field. They all die brutally.

I have plenty of idea how powerful these two are.

Put Mary Marvel, WW, and Supergirl on par with a low end Superman and tell me Thanos would smile at that.

I am by no means saying it would be one sided, but there's too much offense on team 1. I am also considering superspeed, flight, and a few other things besides just strength and toughness, since they'll definitely use them all.

Thanos is routinely written to be above top tiers. He alone could take a number of the women's team. Throw in Hulk and they've got more than enough sheer power to win here, unless Sersi/Diana pull off some crazy space shit (the women *do* have a chance to win if WW can incapacitate one of both of the duo with her lasso).

Thanos and Hulk for a decisive majority.

Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
The Women own this. Mary Marvel + WW would be a good fight,

Not really. You need more than 2 heralds against Thanos alone, even high heralds like Wondy (and Mary is not that level).

The best strategy would probably be to have 5 or 6 of the strong ones all go for Thanos, while the remaining herald or two, plus Fairchild, She-Hulk, and Tigra all work on merely delaying Hulk.

Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
I have plenty of idea how powerful these two are.

Put Mary Marvel, WW, and Supergirl on par with a low end Superman and tell me Thanos would smile at that.

I am by no means saying it would be one sided, but there's too much offense on team 1. I am also considering superspeed, flight, and a few other things besides just strength and toughness, since they'll definitely use them all.

Thanos and the Hulk has reacted to speed in the past, and with his shields, mystics, telepathy, astral form, cosmic fists. No, just NO! Thanos would likely take these backyard hoes out by himself.

The women have like 1/10 chance of winning, and that depends on team Thanos fighting dumb and the women fighting forum style.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The women have like 1/10 chance of winning, and that depends on team Thanos fighting dumb and the women fighting forum style.

Yeah it should have been CISless Super Women vs CIS on Thanos and Hulk. Lulz, I like the way you think.

Originally posted by Q99
Not really. You need more than 2 heralds against Thanos alone, even high heralds like Wondy (and Mary is not that level).

The best strategy would probably be to have 5 or 6 of the strong ones all go for Thanos, while the remaining herald or two, plus Fairchild, She-Hulk, and Tigra all work on merely delaying Hulk.

Delaying the Hulk at that level? Oh boy you really have no idea, or you don't remember the guys that were hitting him, and the zero effect that they had against him. Let's take Arm'Cheddon for example, and focus on his weaker son Trauma. Trauma beat the merged Hulk, and the merged Hulk at the size of a mouse punched the Abomination so hard, that he nearly lost consciousness. The Hulk ignored Arm'Cheddon, stepped on his head (lulz) and turned him to ash from his high impact blows with the augmented Red She Hulk. Give up the props, or remain blind.

Originally posted by Q99
Not really. You need more than 2 heralds against Thanos alone, even high heralds like Wondy (and Mary is not that level).

The best strategy would probably be to have 5 or 6 of the strong ones all go for Thanos, while the remaining herald or two, plus Fairchild, She-Hulk, and Tigra all work on merely delaying Hulk.

U consider ww a high herald

Originally posted by Stoic
Delaying the Hulk at that level? Oh boy you really have no idea, or you don't remember the guys that were hitting him, and the zero effect that they had against him.

Occupy him, not beat him. Iron Man managed that, he spent a fair amount of time on some of the teams he took down, and such.

Not expecting them to do any real damage, but just keeping him away from the other fight.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
U consider ww a high herald

Yes...? There was a thread awhile back discussing the matter and comparing her to other high heralds that came to that conclusion.

I mean, she fights very closely against Superman even when he's not holding back, consistently, even has a win, and Superman's pretty strong even in the High Heralds.

Originally posted by Q99
Occupy him, not beat him. Iron Man managed that, he spent a fair amount of time on some of the teams he took down, and such.

Not expecting them to do any real damage, but just keeping him away from the other fight.

Yes...? There was a thread awhile back discussing the matter and comparing her to other high heralds that came to that conclusion.

I mean, she fights very closely against Superman even when he's not holding back, consistently, even has a win, and Superman's pretty strong even in the High Heralds.

Link? I just don't see it, maybe some good points were made in the thread IMO unless she is in full gear she's mid

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Link? I just don't see it, maybe some good points were made in the thread IMO unless she is in full gear she's mid

I think you'll find that there wasn't a conclusion drawn to that end, if it's the thread I'm thinking about.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I think you'll find that there wasn't a conclusion drawn to that end, if it's the thread I'm thinking about.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
U consider ww a high herald

How do u not?

I can understand this being a close match because it is. If u think otherwise u probably have way too high of an opinion of either thanos or WBH

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
I can understand this being a close match because it is. If u think otherwise u probably have way too high of an opinion of either thanos or WBH

It's not close, not when none of the women can mount a suitable offensive, or take the best that Thanos or WB Hulk has to offer. No it's just a slaughter. These girls are way out of their league.

Team thanos 9.9/10

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I remember an argument fangirl made on a different site that was pretty convincing but I wasn't sold on the idea

Fangirl liked to exagerrate the **** out of some things, though.

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
How do u not?

Because she doesn't have it. Norrin is the penultimate herald right. Do you see standard Diana as a peer? All things being equal would you consider them interchangeable?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Fangirl liked to exagerrate the **** out of some things, though.

True but I admired her panache, she had alotta moxy

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Because she doesn't have it. Norrin is the penultimate herald right. Do you see standard Diana as a peer? All things being equal would you consider them interchangeable?

True but I admired her panache, she had alotta moxy

Fangirl was a dude.

Stoic

It's not close, not when none of the women can mount a suitable offensive,

I'm of the opinion that while a single herald cannot mount a suitable offensive, a combined assault from multiple are a threat.

I also know there's not exactly consensus on that around here. If one takes the view that a collection of heralds isn't enough, then yes, Thanos'll win.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Because she doesn't have it. Norrin is the penultimate herald right. Do you see standard Diana as a peer? All things being equal would you consider them interchangeable?

Like you say, Norrin is the penultimate herald. Or, arguably, ultimate, his feats are I think the best of any HH.

Are you arguing that someone can't be high herald without being interchangeable with Surfer? Because I don't think Superman or Thor qualify in that (yes, Thor can fight Surfer well, but he has a specific energy-absorption power that makes him well suited for the task. Similarly WW can shut down spellcasters with her lasso's anti-magic ability, even teambuster-level types. Also, the defense of her bracers means she'd do better than quite a few other High Heralds, like Cyborg Superman, Spartan 3.0, and such).

When someone regularly, consistently delivers near-even fights against one of the stronger high heralds, they're high herald.

It also doesn't hurt that like, half her rogue's gallery is trans or higher (Ares, Circe, Genocide, Queen of Fables. Couple other gods in there too).