Bane vs Thor (Movie versions)

Started by BlackZero30x6 pages

Thor hit him a total of 5 times and he was done....

What challenge did he pose? The close line that thor laughed off? the punches that didn't appear to cause him pain or the choke hold he broke with one hit? Maybe it was the throw that thor got up and WTF pwned him with a single drop kick?

watch the video again and watch how Thor is running through trying to get his hammer. He stops beats up few guys in his path then runs from some other people. He just beat a group of people why run from another especially when he showed he could handle them quite easily? The reason isn't because he is scared it's because he wants his hammer. He gets surprised and smiles fights back and instead of drawing out the fight he ends it with a drop kick. The only person that looked like a threat to me was Hawkeye.

I get your point though. A guy got a few blows in and tbh failed entirely at incapacitating him at all. But your thinking is if this guy got a few hits in what would prevent Bane? My simple answer is...Thor wont be distracted by the thought "I want to grab my hammer and leave here" he will actually be ready to compete in a full on fight. He is a highly trained warrior with TONS of experience that won't take light of Bane.

Watch both the videos again. Black dude no sold his punch (his "I fought bigger" punch) and was beating him until he tackled him out of the tent. And, once again, Black dude was not near Bane. Bane would have obviously no sold his punch and delivered a concrete-smashing haymaker, which would have put Thor down, considering his reaction to black dude's hit. Bane wins this.

So you are saying that a guy that got hit by the destroy (granted he is dieing but not Ko'ed) gets Ko'ed by a single punch from Bane?.....

Yeah, he was about to die had the magic of his world not been centered around "sacrifice", allowing him to get his powers back. You're acting like he no-sold it. So yeah I am saying a guy who would have been killed by the destroyer and got knocked to the floor by a black dude would get Ko'ed (maybe not a single punch, but still) by a guy who feels no pain, no sells hits from Batman, is able to lift armored men off the ground and carry them, and can punch through concrete (After getting his mask damaged). That's exactly what I'm saying

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
So you are saying that a guy that got hit by the destroy (granted he is dieing but not Ko'ed) gets Ko'ed by a single punch from Bane?.....
I don't think the destroyer was giving everything it had in that punch. More like a casual backhand.

ok the fact he lived had nothing to do with my point. My point was he was durable enough to take that hit without an outright Ko. Unless you are saying Bane is stronger then The Destroyer he's not just simply getting a Ko. Your still on that fight with the big dude? lol Anyways prove that banes fighting skill trumps Thors and I will submit.

EDIT: @newjak: was that little back hand less powerful then a hit from bane?

Originally posted by Lestov16
Once again, black dude wasn't a concrete puncher, and he presented a bit of a challenge to Thor. Bane on the other hand was lifting Bats by the neck with one hand and carrying him (2:08). Thor gets knocked to the ground, while Bane withstands the blows and breaks backs

And as far as the mask goes, didn't Bats need the blade of his glove to sever that? Because Bane gets hit in the face many other times throughout the film and it doesn't seem to affect him at all

And how would you know that this guy wasn't a "concrete" puncher hmm? There wasn't exactly any pillars around for him to punch. Just because he didn't do it doesn't mean he CAN'T do it. So there's no way for you to actually say that this black dude isn't as strong or maybe even stronger than Bane.

We do know he's bigger though. And one thing we didn't see in TDKR was Bane fighting a bigger man. Mostly Bane just fought/killed some of his henchmen and some policemen. His only major challenge was an out of condition Batman. I don't care how hard Bat's trained for 5 months, being out of action for 7-8 yrs is sure to take you out of your game.

Thor on the other hand is bigger, heavier, and in better shape than either Bane or Batman. He has been training longer and has displayed more skill than Bane. Another thing to consider is that Thor was unarmed when he took on that Shield base whereas the Shield agents were all armed.

Dude was laying on the ground helplessly dying. Pretty sure that counts as a TKO. Once again, Black dude nailed him to the floor, and he isn't a concrete puncher, so imagine what Bane's hits will do to him. And yeah, the Black dude is still relevant, because, as I said, he posed a challenge to Thor, and Bane is a far deadlier fighter than him

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
ok the fact he lived had nothing to do with my point. My point was he was durable enough to take that hit without an outright Ko. Unless you are saying Bane is stronger then The Destroyer he's not just simply getting a Ko. Your still on that fight with the big dude? lol Anyways prove that banes fighting skill trumps Thors and I will submit.

EDIT: @newjak: was that little back hand less powerful then a hit from bane?

It's hard to say what level i would put that hit on, but it was obviously wasn't a hard one consdiering Thor was still human at the time and if the destroyer put any effort into that hit it would taken Thor's head clean off.

Personally I think Loki wanted Thor to suffer so only hit him hard enough to keep him barely alive while he slowly died.

Originally posted by Lestov16
Dude was laying on the ground helplessly dying. Pretty sure that counts as a TKO. Once again, Black dude nailed him to the floor, and he isn't a concrete puncher, so imagine what Bane's hits will do to him. And yeah, the Black dude is still relevant, because, as I said, he posed a challenge to Thor, and Bane is a far deadlier fighter than him

ok.....

1) A KO happens when you have so much pain that your body shuts down.

2) fyi my post isn't speaking for an incapacitation it is speaking to Thors damage soak as a mortal.

3) If The destroyer(even if it was a back hand) didn't produce enough force to render Thor unconscious then how will bane?

I have already pointed out Thor ened the fight in five hit's that doesn't seem like trouble to me. Also as I said before if Bane is a deadlier fighter prove it.

Originally posted by Newjak
It's hard to say what level i would put that hit on, but it was obviously wasn't a hard one consdiering Thor was still human at the time and if the destroyer put any effort into that hit it would taken Thor's head clean off.

Personally I think Loki wanted Thor to suffer so only hit him hard enough to keep him barely alive while he slowly died.

Im not arguing that.

Lets say bane was in place of The Destroyer with one punch would bane have been able to produce that much force? iirc Thor went flying when he got hit.

1) His body was shutting down. He was dying.....
2) Regarding his damage soak as a mortal, he fell to the floor after getting hit by a dude who at no point matched Bane's strength or skill.
3) Once again, if he gets floored by a black dude, he'll be floored by Bane

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Im not arguing that.

Lets say bane was in place of The Destroyer with one punch would bane have been able to produce that much force? iirc Thor went flying when he got hit.

It probably wouldn't have sent Thor flying but at the same time I don't think in order to beat Thor you have to be able to produce the same power output the Destroyer did in that scene.

I think a concrete caving pillar punch would be enough to one shot Thor if it landed square.

Originally posted by Newjak
It probably wouldn't have sent Thor flying but at the same time I don't think in order to beat Thor you have to be able to produce the same power output the Destroyer did in that scene.

I think a concrete caving pillar punch would be enough to one shot Thor if it landed square.

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Originally posted by Lestov16
1) His body was shutting down. He was dying.....
2) Regarding his damage soak as a mortal, he fell to the floor after getting hit by a dude who at no point matched Bane's strength or skill.
3) Once again, if he gets floored by a black dude, he'll be floored by Bane

1)....him dying had nothing to to with the point of my argument...

2) yes he got knocked down and not hurt what so ever....obviously that means he gets beat by bane 🙄

3) this is the third time I have requested for you to prove to me Bane is so great and skilled.....still nothing aye?

Originally posted by Newjak
It probably wouldn't have sent Thor flying but at the same time I don't think in order to beat Thor you have to be able to produce the same power output the Destroyer did in that scene.

I think a concrete caving pillar punch would be enough to one shot Thor if it landed square.

NO I agree you don't need to reproduce the same amount of force to beat him but I don't see bane one hit Ko'ing Thor especially considering a hit from the destroyer didn't render him unconscious.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
1)....him dying had nothing to to with the point of my argument...

2) yes he got knocked down and not hurt what so ever....obviously that means he gets beat by bane 🙄

3) this is the third time I have requested for you to prove to me Bane is so great and skilled.....still nothing aye?

NO I agree you don't need to reproduce the same amount of force to beat him but I don't see bane one hit Ko'ing Thor especially considering a hit from the destroyer didn't render him unconscious.

You know it is actually hard to really KO a human being in one shot.

What is easy to do is crack a skull, rupture internal organs, break ribs that kind of thing.

Even if Thor isn't KOed I think one solid pillar breaking hit from Bane is going to leave Thor down and unable to continue.

Notice I said one solid, Thor might be able to dance around a bit but I believe Bane can put Thor down in one well connected blow.

I mean Batman was a a very skilled human being surrounded in body armor and Bane was still working him over with his punching power.

1) Yes it does. You are trying to say he withstood the hit, when he didn't.Just because he wasn't outright unconscious doesn't mean he wasn't Koed

2)No he still got knocked to the ground. Bane hits far harder than that black dude.

3) This:
YouTube video

not the first time I posted the video either. Improper research skills, aye?

4) Once again he was dying, so it's not like he withstood the hit, and once again, he fell to Random Black dude, who at no point showed Bane-level strength, skill, or durability

Originally posted by Newjak
You know it is actually hard to really KO a human being in one shot.

What is easy to do is crack a skull, rupture internal organs, break ribs that kind of thing.

Even if Thor isn't KOed I think one solid pillar breaking hit from Bane is going to leave Thor down and unable to continue.

Notice I said one solid, Thor might be able to dance around a bit but I believe Bane can put Thor down in one well connected blow.

I mean Batman was a a very skilled human being surrounded in body armor and Bane was still working him over with his punching power.

I can say that I agree that he could probably break bones and even rupture an organ but its gonna be more then just one punch to do it. That "concrete breaking hay maker" was not a concrete breaking hay maker. He punched once to crack it and punched again to actually break it. Not to mention he was clearly enraged meaning his adrenalin would have been pumping.

Originally posted by Lestov16
1) Yes it does. You are trying to say he withstood the hit, when he didn't.Just because he wasn't outright unconscious doesn't mean he wasn't Koed

2)No he still got knocked to the ground. Bane hits far harder than that black dude.

3) This:
YouTube video

not the first time I posted the video either. Improper research skills, aye?

4) Once again he was dying, so it's not like he withstood the hit, and once again, he fell to Random Black dude, who at no point showed Bane-level strength, skill, or durability

1) no it doesn't because Im not saying he withstood it. Im saying he got hit by something with super human force and while he was dying he was still awake. Realistically that's not possible.

2) so getting knocked on the ground = getting beaten? 😕

3) that vid doesn't work 😉

4) Prove to me........

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
I can say that I agree that he could probably break bones and even rupture an organ but its gonna be more then just one punch to do it. That "concrete breaking hay maker" was not a concrete breaking hay maker. He punched once to crack it and punched again to actually break it. Not to mention he was clearly enraged meaning his adrenalin would have been pumping.
I don't think Thor is going down in one blow either. Thor is going to be moving around and dodging and rolling with the punches. It's not like Bane is going to punch Thor in the arm and Thor is going to collapse to the floor, but

a scenario like you described where Bane gets a chance to line up his shot and Thor isn't fighting back like in the destroyer scene yeah I think Bane could disable Thor in one hit.