Bane vs Thor (Movie versions)

Originally posted by Newjak
I don't think Thor is going down in one blow either. Thor is going to be moving around and dodging and rolling with the punches. It's not like Bane is going to punch Thor in the arm and Thor is going to collapse to the floor, but

a scenario like you described where Bane gets a chance to line up his shot and Thor isn't fighting back like in the destroyer scene yeah I think Bane could disable Thor in one hit.

well where this all stems from is Lestov16 is saying Thor gets a one hit KO and thats what I am arguing. My main point is Thor even as a mortal has unrealistic damage soak and bane while still unrealistic he is based in reality as is his strength.

Thors not going to just let Bane hit him once he learns of his strength. And a one hit KO isn't going to Happen

EDIT: not to mention Thors got the bigger build meaning The greater strength.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
well where this all stems from is Lestov16 is saying Thor gets a one hit KO and thats what I am arguing. My main point is Thor even as a mortal has unrealistic damage soak and bane while still unrealistic he is based in reality as is his strength.

Thors not going to just let Bane hit him once he learns of his strength. And a one hit KO isn't going to Happen

And I do think Bane has the potential to be able to beat Thor in one hit given that Bane does have a degree of Superman strength.

Thor is too skilled though to get knocked out in shot though imo. I think Thor will end up doing roughly the same as Batman did, maybe worse since he doesn't have any body armor like Batman did help absorb the punishment.

Also in movies bigger build doesn't always equal more strength.

Bane has a feat mortal Thor never duplicated in terms of strength therefore since we know Thor was supposed to be human and nothing was shown to contradict that he only has normal human strength while Bane doesn't based on feats.

Originally posted by Newjak
I don't know if Thor really has unrealistic damage soak. Taking the hit from the destroyer and not being KOed is cool and all but there are people who don't get KOed in high speed car crashes either.

And I do think Bane has the potential to be able to beat Thor in one hit given that Bane does have a degree of Superman strength.

Thor is too skilled though to get knocked out in shot though imo. I think Thor will end up doing roughly the same as Batman did, maybe worse since he doesn't have any body armor like Batman did help absorb the punishment.

Also in movies bigger build doesn't always equal more strength.

Bane has a feat mortal Thor never duplicated in terms of strength therefore since we know Thor was supposed to be human and nothing was shown to contradict that he only has normal human strength while Bane doesn't based on feats.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
well where this all stems from is Lestov16 is saying Thor gets a one hit KO and thats what I am arguing.

I refuted that statement a page ago:

Originally posted by Lestov16
Thor would get Ko'ed (maybe not a single punch, but still)

Originally posted by Newjak
I don't know if Thor really has unrealistic damage soak. Taking the hit from the destroyer and not being KOed is cool and all but there are people who don't get KOed in high speed car crashes either.

And I do think Bane has the potential to be able to beat Thor in one hit given that Bane does have a degree of Superman strength.

Thor is too skilled though to get knocked out in shot though imo. I think Thor will end up doing roughly the same as Batman did, maybe worse since he doesn't have any body armor like Batman did help absorb the punishment.

Im pretty sure in the scene where thor got hit if Hemsworth actually got hit he would be dead not dying. The body is designed to shut down once your threshold of pain has been exceeded. I for example Wrecked my bike as a kid and the handle bar went through my side. I tried to stand and fell but I wasn't Ko'ed but that's not saying someone else could have handled it better or worse.

I agree that it will be a fight not just a clear win on either side but over all I don't think banes strength is going to affect Thor in the way it did batman. Especially his concrete buster being as over hyped as it is IMO. Im not saying its not a good feat it's just not as simple as him throwing a punch that can bust up concrete either.

Batman was wearing full body armor, man. If Bane lands 4/5 consecutive punches on Thor's face(like Bane did before he broke Batman's back) Odin would end up crying in a corner because of he won't no longer recognize his son.

Originally posted by Lestov16
I refuted that statement a page ago:

Originally posted by Lestov16
Watch both the videos again. Black dude no sold his punch (his "I fought bigger" punch) and was beating him until he tackled him out of the tent. And, once again, Black dude was not near Bane. Bane would have obviously no sold his punch and delivered a concrete-smashing haymaker, which would have put Thor down, considering his reaction to black dude's hit. Bane wins this.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
Batman was wearing full body armor, man. If Bane lands 4/5 consecutive punches on Thor's face(like Bane did before he broke Batman's back) Odin would end up crying in a corner because of he won't no longer recognize his son.

Yea I understand that. He is wearing Kevlar padded armor. Im not taking this away from him. Though if you remember in TDK when he was trying to cut open that van he hit the concrete pillar and when he took off his suit he had a huge bruise on his back. If bane hits as hard as people keep saying then that armor doesn't mean a whole whole lot.

Im picking apart banes "ultimate end all strength" Batman was a nothing in that movie. People are acting like his concrete punch was jut a regular punch.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Im pretty sure in the scene where thor got hit if Hemsworth actually got hit he would be dead not dying. The body is designed to shut down once your threshold of pain has been exceeded. I for example Wrecked my bike as a kid and the handle bar went through my side. I tried to stand and fell but I wasn't Ko'ed but that's not saying someone else could have handled it better or worse.

I agree that it will be a fight not just a clear win on either side but over all I don't think banes strength is going to affect Thor in the way it did batman. Especially his concrete buster being as over hyped as it is IMO. Im not saying its not a good feat it's just not as simple as him throwing a punch that can bust up concrete either.

Have you ever seen a hospital show where live people are being wheeled in after being in a high speed car crash. They look a lot worse than Thor did but they were still conscious and dying.

If the Destroyer hit a normal human being like you and I with the same amount of force as a low speed car crash it could have easily sent us flying like Thor and we could have easily been in the exact same scenario Thor was in.

Just because Thor didn't outright die from the attack doesn't mean he was super human in durability. Considering there is nothing else in the movie that shows Thor being stronger than a well built muscled human being I would say odds are that scene didn't show Thor with Superhuman durability just the Destroyer didn't put enough force into the hit to kill him outright even though it could have easily done so.

It's not just the concrete buster that showed Bane's strength. He easily held an armored human being in one hand and walked while their feet were in he air. He easily killed a man with one hand by squeezing his neck. He was able to pick up an armored foe above his head easily without strain. He absorbed the blows from an armored fisted Batman without any harm.

Bane was very clearly above a normal human in terms of stats. Thor is not. So I think the best Thor can do here is delay but there is nothing to suggest he is going to be able to physically withstand Bane's assault on him. Nor is there anything to suggest Thor has a massive skill advantage either to over come the physical inequalities between the two.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Yea I understand that. He is wearing Kevlar padded armor. Im not taking this away from him. Though if you remember in TDK when he was trying to cut open that van he hit the concrete pillar and when he took off his suit he had a huge bruise on his back. If bane hits as hard as people keep saying then that armor doesn't mean a whole whole lot.

Im picking apart banes "ultimate end all strength" Batman was a nothing in that movie. People are acting like his concrete punch was jut a regular punch.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
Yea I understand that. He is wearing Kevlar padded armor. Im not taking this away from him. Though if you remember in TDK when he was trying to cut open that van he hit the concrete pillar and when he took off his suit he had a huge bruise on his back. If bane hits as hard as people keep saying then that armor doesn't mean a whole whole lot.

Im picking apart banes "ultimate end all strength" Batman was a nothing in that movie. People are acting like his concrete punch was jut a regular punch.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
True Bane was probably desperate throwing everything he had because Batman just exploited his weakness, but that is also the only time we see Bane punch something that wasn't Batman. I think he can probably punch that hard every single time.

Originally posted by Newjak
Like I said it just depends on the strength destroyer actually put into the attack. The Destroyer could have easily killed Thor in one blow.

Originally posted by Newjak
Have you ever seen a hospital show where live people are being wheeled in after being in a high speed car crash. They look a lot worse than Thor did but they were still conscious and dying.

Originally posted by Newjak
If the Destroyer hit a normal human being like you and I with the same amount of force as a low speed car crash it could have easily sent us flying like Thor and we could have easily been in the exact same scenario Thor was in.

Originally posted by Newjak
Just because Thor didn't outright die from the attack doesn't mean he was super human in durability. Considering there is nothing else in the movie that shows Thor being stronger than a well built muscled human being I would say odds are that scene didn't show Thor with Superhuman durability just the Destroyer didn't put enough force into the hit to kill him outright even though it could have easily done so.

Originally posted by Newjak
It's not just the concrete buster that showed Bane's strength. He easily held an armored human being in one hand and walked while their feet were in he air. He easily killed a man with one hand by squeezing his neck. He was able to pick up an armored foe above his head easily without strain. He absorbed the blows from an armored fisted Batman without any harm.

he was Strong just not as strong as he is being portrayed by most people. As for batman being armored that helped him a little not much though.

Originally posted by Newjak
Bane was very clearly above a normal human in terms of stats. Thor is not. So I think the best Thor can do here is delay but there is nothing to suggest he is going to be able to physically withstand Bane's assault on him. Nor is there anything to suggest Thor has a massive skill advantage either to over come the physical inequalities between the two.

Originally posted by Zack Fair
True Bane was probably desperate throwing everything he had because Batman just exploited his weakness, but that is also the only time we see Bane punch something that wasn't Batman. I think he can probably punch that hard every single time.

I disagree. There is nothing to make me believe that his major hits to the concrete pillar didn't have any boost from his anger.

Originally posted by Newjak
I do think Bane was holding back some in his first fight with Batman as he was trying to break him down on all levels.

Originally posted by ares834
Bane and it's not pretty.

Originally posted by Newjak
Yeah he got a bruise after jumping off a van and flying into a pillar. That's not a small hit, and if all he has to show from it is a bad bruise that's actually pretty good, and I would say his armor definitely helped absorb quite a bit of the impact.

I would say that to but you said earlier that The destroyer put out the same force as a low speed car crash. Which means that if batman took that impact in armor and took that bruise why isn't batman (minus the broken back) more scared up or bruised after his fight with bane?

First of all, I don't see where anyone is getting that Bane hits harder than that black dude. We have no comparisons to make. You can't say that the black dude can or cannot punch a hole through a pillar simply because he never even tried. Anyone automatically assuming that the black dude is not as strong a puncher than Bane is just assuming stuff.

Second, that pillar wasn't pure concrete. It was concrete on the outside but was something else on the inside. It actually looked pretty much like plaster. If that was pure concrete then it would have been an insane feet to punch through it, but seeing as it isn't Bane isn't exactly super strong either.

It is more valid to assume that he can't match Bane's feats if he hasn't shown them than it is to play some pissant game where we say "DUH WE DUNNO SO WE CANT SAY", that kind of thinking is anathema to theoretical versus battles.

Originally posted by BlackZero30x
I would say that to but you said earlier that The destroyer put out the same force as a low speed car crash. Which means that if batman took that impact in armor and took that bruise why isn't batman (minus the broken back) more scared up or bruised after his fight with bane?

My point was that Thor could have been human still taken that hit from the destroyer without outright dying.