Sasuke (current) vs. Goku (at any stage)

Originally posted by dvampire
Then in the after life he struggled with 10 tons, until he went ssj. I can find many feats in Naruto that puts them above DBZ in strength, because 10 tons isn't enough in there universe. Sasuke is limited to only his defense abilities that strengthens his offensive abilities, since he himself isn't the strongest.

Since when do low ends trump high ends?

Originally posted by dvampire
Genjutsu is not the same as Babade's power's

And Goku can level mountains with his punches. DBZ is an example of a serieswhere striking power is much greater than lifting strength (Though even then, that 40 tons shit is a serious outlier).

Genjutsu is different from Babade's magic, which showed it's limit against someone who's powerlevel (not chakra because they are to different types of energy from two different universes) was higher. Genjutsu is not limited to one's powerlevel, this isn't DBZ, it's it's only beaten by someone having knowledge of the technique, if they don't, you're caught. Goku has no knowledge of the technique so he's in a position where his only option is to be caught, because he has to look at Sasuke in order to defeat him. Do you have any proof of Goku being stronger than Naruto character's? If you do, then provide scans to back up claim. The 40 tons is still a feat that happen, it's rejecting what's already been created in the manga, if you don't except that, then you're not except Goku strength entirely because that's the one situation where his strength is displayed. This just means you're adding stuff help Goku win in your favor. And Naruto have increadible strength feats that can easily be backed up by just a few scans.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Since when do low ends trump high ends?

Can you show a high end strength feat?

Originally posted by dvampire
Can you show a high end strength feat?

I just did, Gravity ring a bell?

I just posted a strength feat scan..

Guys, this guy would probably argue Sasuke could beat Superman since Supes would look in his eyes because stfu he would and whatever mind control or some shit he's overcome is obviously not the same as genjutsu. Why even bother? 😬

TBH we should be going by feats and compared who it has/hasnt worked on. In this case Naruto-level characters against DBZ ones, which isnt much of a contest.

Why even bother?

Do you have a grudge against Superman? Lets keep this on Sasuke vs. Goku.

Originally posted by BloodRain
TBH we should be going by feats and compared who it has/hasnt worked on. In this case Naruto-level characters against DBZ ones, which isnt much of a contest.

Inactivity creates desperation :I

If we did it that way DBZ character's would always win since you favor them more. That's why comparing feats is necessary, which doesn't just mean blowing stuff up. Naruto have a variety of attacks in order to win, it's a universe made more versatile than DBZ (without the powerlevels).

Originally posted by dvampire
Do you have a grudge against Superman? Lets keep this on Sasuke vs. Goku.

Yes, I hate him with every fiber of my being. Which is why I constantly make threads with him in them that I hope he loses in.

Its true, you do do that.

By feats Babidi's mind jack > Sasuke's genjutsu.

By feats Babidi < Vegeta (etc) manly will.

By feats Vegeta (etc) > Sasuke

Feats my boy.

Naruto have a variety of attacks in order to win, it's a universe made more versatile than DBZ

Thats all well and good, now how about showing us exactly what they can bring to the table that will do more than tickle anyone at the beginning of DBZ. Physical or other.

EDIT: Aura, such a Superman hating douchbag ahah

I can't help it. I hate douchebags that make it seem like wearing glasses should be acceptable in today's society.

I wear glasses. 🙁

Man up and learn to live without them. uhuh

But if I take them off my mutant optic blasts will destroy everything. 🙁

Pluck out your eyes. 😐

..... okay.

Dabura had a higher power level than Babidi.

Babadi controlled him.

http://www.manga-access.com/manga/D/Dragon_Ball/chapter/458/12

Couldn't control Vegeta.

Babidi's whole schtick is that he is too weak to fight himself, so he mentally controls stronger characters to fight for him.

http://www.manga-access.com/manga/D/Dragon_Ball/chapter/460/8

Crumbling mountains and plateaus from far away with their clash.

http://www.manga-access.com/manga/D/Dragon_Ball/chapter/462/11
http://www.manga-access.com/manga/D/Dragon_Ball/chapter/462/12

Buu demolishing a cliffside by kicking Dabura into it.

http://www.manga-access.com/manga/D/Dragon_Ball/chapter/308/14

Being driven through a plateau without a scratch on him, while also holding back Freeza's blast, combination strength and durability feat.

http://www.manga-access.com/manga/D/Dragon_Ball/chapter/309/13
http://www.manga-access.com/manga/D/Dragon_Ball/chapter/309/14
http://www.manga-access.com/manga/D/Dragon_Ball/chapter/310

Knocking Freeza through two islands with a kick.