Originally posted by Diesldude
Smh. They were fighting while the planet was whole around them after their supposed planet buster, and then strange froze time. Smh strange then leaves and time starts flowing then you have the planet in bits and you saw the end result, with only Umer being visible. Smh man how else can it be otherwise, why can't you take stranges' word if he broke the 4th wall when he said they they will die, resurrect and fight again. How much clearer can it get? They fought, they died, they get resurrected, hulk calmly walks back into the fight and they fight again. Man this is nuts. This is clear as daylight and you guys still ignore all this evidence in your hulk worship. Denying doesn't make it right.
Originally posted by Diesldude
Smh. They were fighting while the planet was whole around them after their supposed planet buster, and then strange froze time. Smh strange then leaves and time starts flowing then you have the planet in bits and you saw the end result, with only Umer being visible. Smh man how else can it be otherwise, why can't you take stranges' word if he broke the 4th wall when he said they they will die, resurrect and fight again. How much clearer can it get? They fought, they died, they get resurrected, hulk calmly walks back into the fight and they fight again. Man this is nuts. This is clear as daylight and you guys still ignore all this evidence in your hulk worship. Denying doesn't make it right.
Hulk was still alive after the blast. How can Hulks own attack kill him, especially when again, we see him without a scratch in the heart of the blast.
Prime is leagues on top of leagues above hulk in anything, and Lol at the argument even being circled around the strength, prime has a heat vision flight speed durability and strength to WTFCURBSTOMP any version of hulk Lol, add the fact he is one cruel bastard and you got prime ripping hulk in half and whiping his ass with his green skin, after that you may reffer hulk as Brown Scar
Originally posted by The Sorrow
Prove it Lois Lane.
It's been proven a hundred times over, and hulk fanboys just keep singing the same broken tune.
The only people who could think WBH has superior feats than SBP are those who don't understand the scale difference between planets an the goddamn universe. Ditto the only people who could believe WBH has superior durability feats don't understand the difference between planets and the goddamn universe.
No, I'm saying Hulk's best strength feats are planetary and Prime moved the center of the universe so fast the Guardians didn't even notice until it had already happened.
SBP has further survived universal destruction (durability)
You don't have to like the facts, but they're obvious to anyone who isn't in strong denial.
Not sure what facts you have brought up here. The term "planetary" is ambiguous and if you are using it in the way i think you are (akin to regular planetary destruction) then no Hulks best strength feat is far above that. Furthermore prime re arranging the centre of universe iirc also involved him moving planets which is why using the term planetary in one case and not the other is selective equivocation.
Id like see this supposedly apparent enormous scale difference backed up by any form of credible explanation because having read up on both characters fairly extensively such an enormous difference in scale can only be inferred from a gross misunderstanding/underestimation of the scale of Hulks (WBH specifically) best feats.
Moving some massive number of planets to move the center of the universe is not planetary feat in the same way that destroying the omniverse is not simply a universal feat (just a collection of universes, after all).
Not that hard to understand.
Which of WBH's feats are > planetary? His best feat (shared w/ Betty) was destroying a planet and a couple moons.
What you need to understand is that your arbitrary classifications such as planetary mean little. IIRC prime didnt move all those planets simultaneously and did it individually albeit at great speeds. Hence you cannot attempt to accumulate several strength feats performed in quick succession (planetary movement) and then label pool them together as one and then label it as an above planetary (meaningless term) level feat. If you destroy the omniverse by going one universe at a time then all you have is a collection of universe destroying feats. It is not at all the same as destroying all these universes that make up the omniverse simultaneously.
As said before even the term planetary is meaningless. Planets can get destroyed/moved and what have you in different ways. The ways in which its done greatly affects the impressiveness of that feat. Which is why a catch all classification like "planetary" without going into further detail is meaningless.
Additionally the planetary destruction within the worldbreaker hulk feat is not even the most impressive part of the feat and to then try and definte the feat by it is just silly
Originally posted by Naija boy
What you need to understand is that your arbitrary classifications such as planetary mean little. IIRC prime didnt move all those planets simultaneously and did it individually albeit at great speeds. Hence you cannot attempt to accumulate several strength feats performed in quick succession (planetary movement) and then label pool them together as one and then label it as an above planetary (meaningless term) level feat. If you destroy the omniverse by going one universe at a time then all you have is a collection of universe destroying feats. It is not at all the same as destroying all these universes that make up the omniverse simultaneously.As said before even the term planetary is meaningless. Planets can get destroyed/moved and what have you in different ways. The ways in which its done greatly affects the impressiveness of that feat. Which is why a catch all classification like "planetary" without going into further detail is meaningless
Smh. Hung up on definitions? You attempted to equivocate with a meaningless term and use it to improperly classify a feat while similarly not applyinig the same standard to another feat and yet had the audacity to call what you were saying the "facts". Based of of this you then claimed the difference in scale was absurdly enormous but have not been able to give any reasoned defence of the assertion (which was itself ridiculous). I dont expect much logical coherence on these forums but I had decided to give you the benefit of the doubt. My mistake.
Anyhow WBHs feat in HOTM stacks up well against any prime strength feat i know of. Durability feats were never an issue i contested.
for christ sake hulk DOES NOT have feats to compete with someone who climb to the trans tier just because he is that freakin strong, hulk overall has always been a planetery level at the very best and i am talking about his most powerful incarnations, what feats did WBH present to put him above prime? prime broke dimensions and altered the reality itself and i dont want to hear "hulk could have done the same if needed" argument because until he does those things he cannot, SBP flew thrue anti monitors armor crushed it and was unharmed, i am not going to give you a deep comics leason and explain about the anti monitors armor too much however guardians were were stated to die if they were to breach his armor, he broke a wall combined out of all green lanters will power combined, you have any idea how great of a strength feat that is??? he ***** slapped black adam like a fly, black adam would tear hulk's head off, he took a combined team of half DC roster including superman super girl, martian manhunter, wonder woman, flash, he simultaneously outfought 3 flashes by fighting speed, he crushed an entire team of super heroes just by landing after he became a herald of the anti monitor, he took out solomon grundy just with a casual heat vision, owned superman like a child, made the green lanter rings afraid of him, he survived a UNIVERSAL BLAST!!!!!! are you for real? and what did hulk do??? what???
Hulk destroyed the Dark Dimension, with a thunderclap. He's punched right through the TimeStream too... either of them is far greater than moving planets around.
Also, on Sakaar, he literally held a planet together - preventing it from exploding apart. That is far greater than moving planets about.
And if you do want to talk about HOTM, the feat was destroying the dimension with the concussive backwash from Hulk throwing a punch at Red SheHulk. It wasn't even WBH straining himself, it was a mere swing.
Originally posted by red sabre
for christ sake hulk DOES NOT have feats to compete with someone who climb to the trans tier just because he is that freakin strong, hulk overall has always been a planetery level at the very best and i am talking about his most powerful incarnations, what feats did WBH present to put him above prime? prime broke dimensions and altered the reality itself and i dont want to hear "hulk could have done the same if needed" argument because until he does those things he cannot, SBP flew thrue anti monitors armor crushed it and was unharmed, i am not going to give you a deep comics leason and explain about the anti monitors armor too much however guardians were were stated to die if they were to breach his armor, he broke a wall combined out of all green lanters will power combined, you have any idea how great of a strength feat that is??? he ***** slapped black adam like a fly, black adam would tear hulk's head off, he took a combined team of half DC roster including superman super girl, martian manhunter, wonder woman, flash, he simultaneously outfought 3 flashes by fighting speed, he crushed an entire team of super heroes just by landing after he became a herald of the anti monitor, he took out solomon grundy just with a casual heat vision, owned superman like a child, made the green lanter rings afraid of him, he survived a UNIVERSAL BLAST!!!!!! are you for real? and what did hulk do??? what???