Odin & WBH vs Depowered Tyrant & Superboy Prime

Started by Cogito11 pages
Originally posted by janus77
Hulk destroyed the Dark Dimension, with a thunderclap. He's punched right through the TimeStream too... either of them is far greater than moving planets around.

That was like, 40 years ago and has no bearing here. What he destroyed in the HOTM storyline (with Betty) was a planet and a couple moons

Originally posted by janus77
Also, on Sakaar, he literally held a planet together - preventing it from exploding apart. That is far greater than moving planets about.

lol

Moving a single planet at lightspeed+ requires exponentially more force than holding together a planet.

Originally posted by janus77
And if you do want to talk about HOTM, the feat was destroying the dimension with the concussive backwash from Hulk throwing a punch at Red SheHulk. It wasn't even WBH straining himself, it was a mere swing.

No punch destroyed the dark dimenision. Anything else is unquantifiable.

Fact: Prime moved the center of the universe.
Fact: Prime has, on several occasions, punched through dimensions
Fact: The effects of those punches have altered reality
Fact: Prime survived a universe-busting explosion
Fact: Prime's feats are greater than Hulk's

Originally posted by golem370
Just to let you know WBH in this thread has a strength increase and armor which is suppose to be indestructible. Think Juggernaut with an uber strength increase

In that case, I think Team 1 has a shot. I don't think they can beat DePowered Tyrant though. SBP should be a piece of cake for either Hulk or Odin, but Dp Tyrant is probably a match for the both of them combined. If not more.

Depowered Tyrant wasn't even powerful enough to kill Thanos so imo he would be High Skyfather nothing more.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman has done the same thing as WBH AND Betty did except it was without any energy projection and superman did it alone.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Prove it Lois Lane.

Don't cry now, hulk is still the strongest one in a "small world".

That's the thing, whether Hulk is shown to be the strongest or not is irrelevant to me, unlike you I don't have some agenda to push to make him > everyone else. Anyone who reads Marvel and Hulk comics can see how just how strong he is without having to state it from thread to thread. You bring up Superman when he isn't even involved in debates such as this one and your borderline obsession over him is known throughout the forum.

Team 2.

It has been stated Classic Hulk would not be a match for most recent version of Hulk like WWH WBH or even War Hulk, yet Classic Hulk has some incredible strength feats like punching through a time line destroying a asteroid bigger then earth standing toe to toe with a Super Adaptoid with the combined power of 100 super heros holding his own which some of Marvel strongest heros

Originally posted by janus77
Do you always shout your ignorance so loudly and vehemently?
You do realise that strongly asserting an erroneous statement, doesn't change the fact that it is in error?

http://www.mynetimages.com/viewimage/dfd434506d

Let's not forget Hulk destroyed a pocket universe as well in a fist fight.

Originally posted by Cogito
That was like, 40 years ago and has no bearing here. What he destroyed in the HOTM storyline (with Betty) was a planet and a couple moons

lol

Moving a single planet at lightspeed+ requires exponentially more force than holding together a planet.

No punch destroyed the dark dimenision. Anything else is unquantifiable.

Fact: Prime moved the center of the universe.
Fact: Prime has, on several occasions, punched through dimensions
Fact: The effects of those punches have altered reality
Fact: Prime survived a universe-busting explosion
Fact: Prime's feats are greater than Hulk's

So Prime can punch Superman and destroy the other heralds in the vicinity? Scans.

Originally posted by golem370
It has been stated Classic Hulk would not be a match for most recent version of Hulk like WWH WBH or even War Hulk, yet Classic Hulk has some incredible strength feats like punching through a time line destroying a asteroid bigger then earth standing toe to toe with a Super Adaptoid with the combined power of 100 super heros holding his own which some of Marvel strongest heros

He also punched Onslaught in a million pieces and punched the reality warping powers clean out of him. Prime space cheese fts are all nice and dandy but his punching power isn't comparable to Hulks, at all.

Originally posted by Cogito
That was like, 40 years ago and has no bearing here. What he destroyed in the HOTM storyline (with Betty) was a planet and a couple moons

lol

Moving a single planet at lightspeed+ requires exponentially more force than holding together a planet.

No punch destroyed the dark dimenision. Anything else is unquantifiable.

Fact: Prime moved the center of the universe.
Fact: Prime has, on several occasions, punched through dimensions
Fact: The effects of those punches have altered reality
Fact: Prime survived a universe-busting explosion
Fact: Prime's feats are greater than Hulk's

Kal-l punched through the same wall Prime punched through. If Savage Hulk was in that room, he would have done the same thing.

Originally posted by janus77
Do you always shout your ignorance so loudly and vehemently?
You do realise that strongly asserting an erroneous statement, doesn't change the fact that it is in error?

are you retarded or some shit? i just pointed out SBP feats, how the hell can pointing out his feats be ignorant at any point? dude you are just a phuckin fail seriously i brought you feats of SBP which put hulk to shame, so i understand why you choose to whine and be butthurt about that but seriously if you expect anyone to believe you then you are even dumber than i thought.

There's quite a few Savage Hulk feats that pretty much rival HOTM(if not surpass it).
It's very easy to forget that decades before Greg Pak came along, Hulk had been toppling Eternals, busting dimensions and ripping apart the very fabric of the universe. And back then, people would argue the toss between Hulk and Thor. And Marvel would present them as equals, with the proviso that Thor needs Mjolnir to stand a chance against Hulk.

Our forum arguments used to be closer to their comic depictions back then, Hulk vs Juggernaut - eternal stalemate. Hulk vs Thor - split/chose your favourite.

Even then, it was easy to point out that Savage Hulk/Hulk had showings that made him pretty much what Marvel peg him as "The strongest one there is".

Pak's evolution of Hulk into Green Scar have, instead of lifting Hulk definitively beyond Thor, merely served to push Savage Hulk below Thor (so that the pretence can be introduced that Thor and Green Scar are roughly equals).

It's interesting to observe these kinds of dynamics at play in online communities... KMC's bias is perhaps also informed by previous forummers who used to create deranged Hulk vs threads - some guy called Asian Hulk or something... but there is a strong desire to revise history in light of the Hulk's established evolution, so as to maintain the "balance of powers" (that is currently only a pretence).

Originally posted by red sabre
are you retarded or some shit? i just pointed out SBP feats, how the hell can pointing out his feats be ignorant at any point? dude you are just a phuckin fail seriously i brought you feats of SBP which put hulk to shame, so i understand why you choose to whine and be butthurt about that but seriously if you expect anyone to believe you then you are even dumber than i thought.

You really didn't prove anything. You brought up Prime moving planets which is well within Savage Hulk capabilities. You brought up Prime punches changing reality in a room where the walls itself controlled time and again, it was repeated by another character. Prime has been in PLENTY of fights, and Prime doesn't hold back and he didn't cause close to the amount of damage Hulk caused with a single hit. Your fts was lame.

Originally posted by red sabre
are you retarded or some shit? i just pointed out SBP feats, how the hell can pointing out his feats be ignorant at any point? dude you are just a phuckin fail seriously i brought you feats of SBP which put hulk to shame, so i understand why you choose to whine and be butthurt about that but seriously if you expect anyone to believe you then you are even dumber than i thought.

that's twice now that you've proven yourself both ignorant and hot-headed.

1) providing 'feats' for one-side whilst claiming lack of feats for the other, is indeed IGNORANT.

2) being really really angry and quick to insult people and label them "retards" is, much like the vehemence of your previous posting, not going to make your erroneous assertions any less wrong.

Originally posted by janus77
There's quite a few Savage Hulk feats that pretty much rival WBH (if not surpass it).
It's very easy to forget that decades before Greg Pak came along, Hulk had been toppling Eternals, busting dimensions and ripping apart the very fabric of the universe. And back then, people would argue the toss between Hulk and Thor. And Marvel would present them as equals, with the proviso that Thor needs Mjolnir to stand a chance against Hulk.

Our forum arguments used to be closer to their comic depictions back then, Hulk vs Juggernaut - eternal stalemate. Hulk vs Thor - split/chose your favourite.

Even then, it was easy to point out that Savage Hulk/Hulk had showings that made him pretty much what Marvel peg him as "The strongest one there is".

Pak's evolution of Hulk into Green Scar have, instead of lifting Hulk definitively beyond Thor, merely served to push Savage Hulk below Thor (so that the pretence can be introduced that Thor and Green Scar are roughly equals).

It's interesting to observe these kinds of dynamics at play in online communities... KMC's bias is perhaps also informed by previous forummers who used to create deranged Hulk vs threads - some guy called Asian Hulk or something... but there is a strong desire to revise history in light of the Hulk's established evolution, so as to maintain the "balance of powers" (that is currently only a pretence).

Seriously, stop acting like KMC has a unified agenda against Hulk. 😬

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
Seriously, stop acting like KMC has a unified agenda against Hulk. 😬

There is a clear and observable bias - nobody quibbles over feats as much as when they are attributable to Hulk. You may not observe it, or rather not wish to observe it, given your own bias, but it is there.

Originally posted by janus77
There is a clear and observable bias - nobody quibbles over feats as much as when they are attributable to Hulk. You may not observe it, or rather not wish to observe it, given your own bias, but it is there.

There's as much bias for and against Hulk as there is for other popular characters including Superman, Thor, Wolverine, etc.

Hulk's not the KMC victim you try to paint him out to be.

Originally posted by carver9
You really didn't prove anything. You brought up Prime moving planets which is well within Savage Hulk capabilities. You brought up Prime punches changing reality in a room where the walls itself controlled time and again, it was repeated by another character. Prime has been in PLENTY of fights, and Prime doesn't hold back and he didn't cause close to the amount of damage Hulk caused with a single hit. Your fts was lame.

My computer is ripped up and I can only post scans if I quote someone so I'm quoting myself since this isn't directed towards anyone.

Here is Prime stomping..

http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc260/Superman-Prime_Respect/scatter.jpg

Here is WBH taking a step.

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/WBHfootstepdoesitagain2.jpg

http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll121/kingaholu/WBHfootstepdoesitagain3.jpg

Originally posted by JakeTheBank
There's as much bias for and against Hulk as there is for other popular characters including Superman, Thor, Wolverine, etc.

Hulk's not the KMC victim you try to paint him out to be.

To be honest Jake, I kind of agree with him. I see what you are saying, I agree with you to an extent as well but Hulk is clearly downplayed by the majority.

Originally posted by TheGodKiller
If by followers , you mean fanboys , then there is only one Thanos "follower" on this board , and we all know who that is .
quan or nihilus