Aaron Cross vs Jason Bourne

Started by Lestov163 pages

Aaron Cross vs Jason Bourne

1. H2H fight in boxing ring from Snatch
2. Melee fight in the Initech office building from Office Space
3. Gunfight in 42nd St. Subway Station

We'll have to see the film first do decide, no?

A few clips from a trailer doesn't let us see what Cross is capable of.

lestov you beat me to this, i was gonna to this sunday after i saw it

I'm gonna say tentatively Aaron Cross, based on what I've heard and seen so far from the trailers.

IDK, actually, because apparently Aaron was an idiot and the bio-augmentation amped his intelligence and physical stats, so he may have needed the meds just to get to Bourne's level, so whether he surpasses him is unclear

Somebody pay your hard-earned 10 dollars for a ticket so you can tell me the answer!!

Originally posted by Lestov16
IDK, actually, because apparently Aaron was an idiot and the bio-augmentation amped his intelligence and physical stats, so he may have needed the meds just to get to Bourne's level, so whether he surpasses him is unclear

Somebody pay your hard-earned 10 dollars for a ticket so you can tell me the answer!!

i will on sunday, although im only paying $5 dollars

Has anyone seen this film yet>

Damn lets wait till the film is released anywhere before threads are made!

After seeing the film I'll say Cross. His physical and mental amplification is beyond even Bourne's. He also doesn't have the psychological issues that plagued Bourne and his counterparts. He's an enhanced super-soldier and literally doesn't put a foot wrong when taking someone down. I'll wait until more people have seen this to discuss because part of the argument will be a spoiler, but Bourne is not quite at Cross' level.

Originally posted by Ascendancy
After seeing the film I'll say Cross. His physical and mental amplification is beyond even Bourne's. He also doesn't have the psychological issues that plagued Bourne and his counterparts. He's an enhanced super-soldier and literally doesn't put a foot wrong when taking someone down. I'll wait until more people have seen this to discuss because part of the argument will be a spoiler, but Bourne is not quite at Cross' level.

Does he actually have HF? As shown in the trailer?

Healing factor? Yes, sort of.

Spoiler:
He heals somewhat faster than normal, but the main thing is that he heals pretty much completely; pretty much no scarring or loss of feeling/function due to nerve damage that others might experience.

Yeah I got that from the trailer.

Speed is key. Yet a handy ability regardless. Gives him time to chip his enemy down.

Well the film does a good job of showing just how much his enhancements increase his prowess, especially mentally. They make sure that you understand how much beyond Treadstone and Blackbriar these operatives are.

There was one feature of every previous Bourne film that wasn't in this one and I wasn't too happy about it. Cross never engages any other enhanced soldiers in hand-to-hand. Those visceral, intense scenes do the most to speak to how far beyond even the best regular soldiers these operatives are in all the previous films. I was awaiting it the entire time and wasn't very happy that it never went down. Regardless, there's not really any doubt that he and all the others in his cadre are better than even Bourne.

I don't know. He didn't have any problems at all in combat. None....

However, Bourne would tend to face a near-equal to him in each of his three films. Cross has no such competition here.

There's no question that Cross is physically superior though.

That was something I was disappointed about as well, but Bourne was injured when going up against the hit squad at the end of the first film. Cross didn't even take a scratch when it was 4 v 1.

I'd actually give this match to Bourne Cross fought nothing but mooks which in no way impressed me and there is nothing to verify his supposed super skills.

The only time he came into contact with someone even close to his level he ended up shot multiple times and needed to be bailed out.

Originally posted by McNasty996
I'd actually give this match to Bourne Cross fought nothing but mooks which in no way impressed me and there is nothing to verify his supposed super skills.

The only time he came into contact with someone even close to his level he ended up shot multiple times and needed to be bailed out.

He shot the other guy too, and the only reason he needed to be bailed out is because he was trying to save a broad. Had he been on his own it would have been a completely different fight.

Originally posted by Mindset
He shot the other guy too, and the only reason he needed to be bailed out is because he was trying to save a broad. Had he been on his own it would have been a completely different fight.

He did and the other guy was still going strong and got plot killed by the woman. We don't know what would of happened but we must go by what we were given and he showed nothing against anything but mooks

Cross got plot shot because of the woman.

And the people sent to kill the doc weren't mooks...

Originally posted by McNasty996
He did and the other guy was still going strong and got plot killed by the woman. We don't know what would of happened but we must go by what we were given and he showed nothing against anything but mooks

The hit squad for the chick was top tier. Again, it's equivalent to those Bourne faced at the end of the first film. Bourne was injured during his fight, where as Cross jogged through everyone like it was a training exercise. I absolutely loved Bourne's character, but the film made a point of noting over and over that those in the programs after his are above and beyond in every way. Bourne was psych-molded into a killing machine to the point that he has permanent mental instability; Cross, his counterparts, and those from LARX are genetically-enhanced super-soldiers. You can try and see it however you want but they are on another level. Did you miss the jump from the stand, the survival skills, the healing, and the perfect hand-to-hand combat abilities? None of the hit team even laid a hand on Cross. Bourne is still my favorite but Cross is superior without doubt.