Originally posted by zopzop
Yup. They billed this turd as some major event (in terms of scale and consequence) and look how it turned out.All this drama and all it took was Mr. Sinister to end the P5! I'm still LOLing at that idiot Nova Corp member that said this thing, ie the PF, was more powerful than Galactus. 😆
Wow. Whats happened to you? 😬
I can basically say the same thing i said in the SPB vs Phoenix 5 thread.
The Force isnt the same as an artifact like the IG that you can just use the power at any desired extent with just a thought. It is a sentient entity with its own objectives. This can determine the outcome of battles. (See AOA Jeans battle with Archangel in Uncanny X-force which saw the Force turn on Jean because Archangels agenda matched the Phoenixes)
It is the embodiment of chaos, passion, destruction and rebirth. Hosts have to be strong of mind and rein in the power and not get too caught up or risk losing control and doing far more than just winning a battle but instead consuming a star system. It is not as simple as looking at the outcome of a battle to determine a hierarchy of power.
Context. Context. Context.
The hosts are trying to present themselves as heroes.
They have to have a tight rein on their power or risk losing control due to the destructive and passionate urges of the Phoenix entity, so a battle with an opponent comes with a simultaneous internal struggle
The Phoenixes agenda and a hosts internal struggle and prioritization of being heroes over unleashing their power and risking what they fight for provide clear explanations for their showings.
However at the same time we have seen on panel that the hosts have high levels of durability, healing/reforming abilities and are extremely powerful.
In a forum battle where the characters dont have to consider the consequences of their actions and can let loose a character like Superman would not stand a chance against a single one of them.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
All we learned from this event is that Tiamut would slap the force right in the penis
Dont see how a logical or knowledgeable comic reader can come to that conclusion.
The points ive made are well documented, hosts have a wide spectrum of showings and its down to the nature of the power they wield.
To ignore that and to just look at battle showings/outcomes would be a superficial, incomplete analysis of the comics.
Basically a waste of time to read 😬
Originally posted by GalacticStorm
Wow. Whats happened to you? 😬
Originally posted by zopzop
Marvel happened to me. The cxxksuckers they call "writers" happened to me. They took an (at least) universal force/abstract and reduced it to a Trans level threat. Did you see Breevort's (or whatever his name is) posts on Mindspring detailing how he views the Force power wise in relation to beings like Odin?
I didnt, but until they change the nature and significance of the Force on panel through retcon and give it showings which cant be explained away by what we've been shown/told in continuity, nothings changed. I havent seen anything on panel that demotes the Force
The Force isnt an evil being looking to destroy creation, it is a force of creation with a role to play so its going to have different showings to something like the IG or a Cosmic Cube or any other power wielded by a ruthless villain.
Also its nature as the Big Bang of Marvel was reiterated by Stark in AvX4 and it is looking likely that it was the power behind House of M as a connection has been mentioned several times.
Lets wait it out and see. I have faith 🙂
Originally posted by zopzop
Marvel happened to me. The cxxksuckers they call "writers" happened to me. They took an (at least) universal force/abstract and reduced it to a Trans level threat. Did you see Breevort's (or whatever his name is) posts on Mindspring detailing how he views the Force power wise in relation to beings like Odin?
Edit : The replies were made on Formspring , not Mindspring(not even sure whether that exists) .
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Do you still take Brevoort's opinion , regarding this matter , seriously ?Edit : The replies were made on Formspring , not Mindspring(not even sure whether that exists) .
Originally posted by zopzop
Brevoort's the Editor in Chief at Marvel, his opinion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>anyone else. So we have that idiot overseeing this entire crossover, is it any wonder it's one big clusterfxxk?
Originally posted by TheGodKiller
Brevoort also stated that nothing is transitive at such power-levels , and that anyone can beat anyone , when confronted with the Galactus-Phoenix interactions . Or did you forget the quotes that I posted a long time back in that Odin VS Phoenix thread ?
He also all but stated that Odin could have ended this whole fiasco (AvX) and dealt with the PF but he said where would the fun be in that.
Originally posted by zopzop
Uhm, that proves my point. That idiot believes a skyfather is on the same level as universal abstracts like the Phoenix Force or Galactus. 🙄He also all but stated that Odin could have ended this whole fiasco (AvX) and dealt with the PF but he said where would the fun be in that.
That's neither the first nor the last time he's done such a thing .
He likes to troll posters who try to turn his Formspring account into a battle board . This should be proof enough of that :
http://www.formspring.me/TomBrevoort/q/836269400