Originally posted by ODGThis discussion has been constructive on my part but, unfortunately for you, it has been blatantly heading since the very start, with impressive velocity, to the point where the stupidity of what your saying is so 'in everybody's face', that you're force to backtrack into "I loved this discussion weeks ago, but now you're strawmanning (my favorite word)".
I was mildly interested in this conversation three weeks ago back when it was constructive and not your vagina bleeding over people not recognizing that Superman is inherently super intelligent only because of his powers, rather than functionally.
Originally posted by ODGI love how you try to narrow it down to a small area - forsenics, in order to justify your asinine stance that "speed + memory make up intelligence", while at the same time saying what is, without a doubt, one of the most asinine things in the history of this board.
This strawman is particularly dumb. I can't tell anymore whether that's intentional or not. Batman can take a few seconds and apply his accumulated knowledge of advanced forensics in seconds to a crime scene. Wally needs only moments with forensic books/encyclopedias to do the same. Batman does it more instinctually and naturally. Wally has to do it more laboriously (relative to his perception of time). The result ends up being more or less the same.
You're saying that Flash is functionally as intelligent as Batman. That all he needs is to read some books, and he'll get the same result, just because he's fast and has memory.
According to your thought pattern, there's no such thing as intelligence - all you need is time and memory - making the superspeedsters super-geniuses on-par with Batman (and more), apparently.
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I should just call you dumb and move on, but this is too much fun.
Originally posted by ODGPlease, point me out to where superspeed and memory have by their lonesome propelled a speedster to genius level.
That superspeedsters that don't even have supersenses have displayed functional superintelligence via superspeed processing. A fact that chafes I'm sure, because it makes Superman a lil bit less special.
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You're also seemingly turning this into me being mad about other people being able to do what Superman does - which is not in discussion, but nice attempt at mis-direction.
No, this discussion is about you saying that superspeed and memory are what make up intelligence.
You know, another one of the dumb shit you keep saying.
Originally posted by ODGOne one hand, there's the experienced street levelers, who sees projectiles and aproximates how to position himself in order to dodge it, or to deflect it precisely.
So somebody like Cap's never instinctually understood the ballistics, firepower, vector, speed, mass, resistance, random other factors necessary enough to perform a feat like deflecting a fired bullet off his shield, rebounding it off other surfaces, then back onto an opponent? Cap doesn't consciously perform random calculations in his head to do this. He just does. He knows how powerful a gun is, knows the speeds, angles... oh, wait... I'm just patronizing you with the completely obvious at this point.Anyway, my superundies don't bulge when Superman starts remembering the data he's accumulated concerning bullet calibers, starts processing vectors almost unconsciously and remembers Pete's favorite malt.
On the other hand, there's Superman, who sees the projectile, and knows the exact mass, vector and ballistics of the projectile, without even consciously thinking about it or making the calculations.
How should I explain this in terms you understand.
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Imagine we're playing pool.
There's you. You're pretty good. You explain to me that if you hit the green ball with the white ball in the left corner, it will direct it towards the hole. Maybe you'll even tell me that you can do better. You can hit the red ball with the white one, then the red one will hit the green one, and then it will go into the hole. This comes easy for you, you've played before, you don't even have to think too much about how you'll hit the white one - it comes naturally.
Now, I get up from the seat. I didn't really listen to much of what you said, because I knew you liked hearing yourself talk, and that bores me. I'm completly disinterested in what's going on, I take a glance at a table. Then, instantly. I tell you the mass of the white ball, the red and green one. In fact, I tell you the mass of all the balls on the table. Even the mass of the table and cue themselves. Then I tell you, precisely, the speed of the white ball if I hit it. Its vectorial direction, the precise energy it will hit the green ball with, how that will affect it, and how that in turn will affect the red one. Then I tell you the exact velocity the red ball will have when it falls into the hole. Remember, I didn't even think about any of that. I didn't even try to make the calculations in my head. My brain is so ridiculously intelligent, that I need but a glance, and everything is understood, completly.
That's in a nutshell, the difference between what high street levelers are doing, and what Superman does.
