Best saber duelists

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Best saber duelists

Any names pop in mind?

My my top best would be:

1. Luke
2. Yoda
3. Mace
4. Sidious
5. Dooku
6. Caedus
7. Bane
8. Kas'im
9. Maul
10. Obi-Wan

Luke is pretty much undisputedly number 1.

Certainly wouldn't put Maul in the top ten though. There are plenty of others who have shown more skill.

Luke takes number 1 in just about anything.
But I agree, there have been better showings than anything Maul can do.

Originally posted by ares834
Certainly wouldn't put Maul in the top ten though. There are plenty of others who have shown more skill.

Like....

Zannah, Anakin, Katarn, etc...

Zannah--dunno much about her saber skill.

Damn... I forgot about Anakin and Katarn 😮

Zannah survived a fight with Bane in his Orbalisks when he was actually trying to kill her. That alone is a major testament to her skill.

1. Irek Ismaren.
Takes on with sabers Luke, Mara, Tahiri and 16 Yuuzhan Vong SIMULTANEOUSLY.

2. Luke
3.Caedus
4. Windu
5. Yoda
6. Palpatine
7. Jaina
8. Mara
9. Dooku
10. Kenobi

Bane era not considered.

Irek Ismaren had no training is lightsaber combat at all. It was all instinct. Therefore I don't think he can be called the best duelist.

And what've you got against the Bane era, punk?

I don't put Caedus in the top 10 and definitely not above Bane. If we're going to go all the way back then even Raskta Lsu is a more technically-proficient duelist.

Caedus only managed to survive as long as he did against Luke on the Anakin because of the surroundings and even without Ben's interference he would have been finished.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Irek Ismaren had no training is lightsaber combat at all. It was all instinct. Therefore I don't think he can be called the best duelist.

And what've you got against the Bane era, punk?


True. But looking at tables it seems that people take power into consideration on first place. And skill is not mentioned either.

I've got nothing against Bane era, I didn't read it, emo!
Well, to be honest all those debates made me overcritical to Drew's material. I enjoyed Revan novel but after I entered this forum and began analyzing feats, I can't Force myself to ignore his "cool" game like Force portrayal. Was in long dilemma but after I found that he portrays Force statis from Kotor as legitimate power in one of the Bane books, that was too much for me. I just skipped all of that to Plagueis novel and it's damn good.

Irek Ismaren's also a big cyborg with 7 sabers drawing from a force nexus.

Certainly wouldn't put Maul in the top ten though. There are plenty of others who have shown more skill.

Agreed. I'd put the top Jedi and Sith from most eras higher.

Especially given

Spoiler:
how thoroughly he gets his ass kicked in the upcoming novel.

Sure, his opponent was pretty fawking good, but such a humiliating defeat isn't worthy of the best.

Here's a thought: Nomi Sunrider. She doesn't have a lot of feats, but as I recall she wielded her lightsaber like a master on her first try.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Here's a thought: Nomi Sunrider. She doesn't have a lot of feats, but as I recall she wielded her lightsaber like a master on her first try.

Yea, she was a natural, though most of her really impressive feats were force feats.

Of course, bringing up her brings up Ulic and Exar, both masters with a saber.

I'd give all three of those, Krayt, etc. wins over Maul.

I think part of it with Maul is that one, he was in line to replace Sidious at some point and two, he looked too badass not to be one of the best. As things stand though it's clear that Sidious likely saw him as a thorough errand-boy more than someone who would really follow him as leader of the Sith.

As I hear in Plagueis, Sidious views him more like a pet than an apprentice.

Yes. Maul, if he'd ever become Sith Master, was still well away from it.

Irek Ismaren's also a big cyborg with 7 sabers drawing from a force nexus.

He showed all his lightsaber feats before drawing on Force nexus.

Yes. Maul, if he'd ever become Sith Master, was still well away from it.

Lightsaber duel prowess has nothing to do with Sith philosophy and arcane teachings he had no access to.

Originally posted by Arhael
Lightsaber duel prowess has nothing to do with Sith philosophy and arcane teachings he had no access to.

Since he was Sith Apprentice, I figure Sidious was teaching him *some*, and'd teach him more as he grew stronger. But he was at the shallow end of the pool in PM.

Originally posted by Nephthys
As I hear in Plagueis, Sidious views him more like a pet than an apprentice.

Originally posted by Arhael

Lightsaber duel prowess has nothing to do with Sith philosophy and arcane teachings he had no access to.

Originally posted by Q99
Since he was Sith Apprentice, I figure Sidious was teaching him *some*, and'd teach him more as he grew stronger. But he was at the shallow end of the pool in PM.

Well according to Dave Filoni Maul is well trained In All The Ways of the Sith. He also says Maul has a lot of knowledge on Why Sidious is so successful as a Sith Lord.

So he was obviously taught quite a bit.

On another note not sure why people are rating Obi-Wan above Maul considering they've fought a few times now and if anything Maul's usually been shown to be the superior combatant.