Best saber duelists

Originally posted by Dolos
No he literally spent about thirty years perfecting his mastery of seven lightsaber forms, his proficiency with three different types of lightsabers, and his technical skills.

I was referring to the appellation of "the most knowledgeable and well-trained" duelist ever. All that is strictly by Bane's estimation and there's no reason to assume he'd be in a position to know and judge accurately.

Have to put Maul in here now after the Dual Saber Uberness he displayed against Sidious.

Originally posted by Dolos
No he literally spent about thirty years perfecting his mastery

Originally posted by Tzeentch._
Obi-Wan is the most skilled duelist.

Spoiler:
He handed Maul and Savage their asses, after all.

Well yeah.

Spoiler:
his sword fighting against the brothers was actually better than Sidious's.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Have to put Maul in here now after the Dual Saber Uberness he displayed against Sidious.

His 'uberness' lasted about 30 seconds or less... He got his ass handed to him and begged for his life.

Not saying he isn't a good saber duelist.

One thing I like? As you know, I'm a legacy fan and I like Krayt & Co.

One of A'Sharad's good showings... is against Obi-wan at his peak, not long after all these Clone Wars fights.

So stuff that establishes Obi-Wan as good, in turn helps establish the level there.

Originally posted by Col. Valerian
His 'uberness' lasted about 30 seconds or less... He got his ass handed to him and begged for his life.

Not saying he isn't a good saber duelist.

It's not about the length of the duel, it's about how close it was. There was clearly a Level of parity in that duel.

And he begged for his life after Sidious starting using his Force powers on him. That has no relevance to a discussion on best Saber duelists.

There was no parity. How many times is Tempest going to have to point out that Sidious 'never wavered from his position of superiority' before you guys get that?

Originally posted by Nephthys
There was no parity. How many times is Tempest going to have to point out that Sidious 'never wavered from his position of superiority' before you guys get that?

I am passing the torch to you, my child. Now immolate them.

Originally posted by Nephthys
There was no parity. How many times is Tempest going to have to point out that Sidious 'never wavered from his position of superiority' before you guys get that?

And what does that have to do with Saber ability?

His superior position over Maul was through superior force powers every time.

If you didn't see anything even close to parity in the last Saber duel then I really don't know what you were seeing.

Originally posted by Nephthys
There was no parity. How many times is Tempest going to have to point out that Sidious 'never wavered from his position of superiority' before you guys get that?

Merriam-Webster
1: not ever : at no time <I never met her>
2: not in any degree : not under any condition <never the wiser for his experience>

Now the torch is yours. 😛

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
And what does that have to do with Saber ability?

His superior position over Maul was through superior force powers every time.

If you didn't see anything even close to parity in the last Saber duel then I really don't know what you were seeing.

The majority of the fight was a lightsaber duel. The quote says that he NEVER wavered in his superiority. Do the math.

He had his Force powers available to him the whole fight and used them to keep his position of superiority.

Opress gets past his defenses and knocks him off the balcony. Sidious uses his force powers to grab both brothers and pull them down. Hence keeping his position of superiority.

Maul and Opress tiring Sidious in Sabers, so he floors Opress and knocks Maul out with his Superior force powers. Hence keeping his position of superiority.

Those moments where you say he's pressed would invalidate the quote, as that would be Sidious wavering in his superiority. You do know what wavering means right? Its exactly what you're describing.

Besides having "a level of parity" in the saber duel (which was how I put it) doesn't even contradict Sidious winning the Saber duel. But the quotes from the site and from Filoni are all referring to the All Out combat which Sidious was winning by a significant margin.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Those moments where you say he's pressed would invalidate the quote, as that would be Sidious wavering in his superiority. You do know what wavering means right? Its exactly what you're describing.

And your taking the quote too literally. Your saying he was superior every second? How exactly was he in the superior position when Opress knocked him off the balcony? Please enlighten me.

Any element of parity contradicts Sidious never wavering in his superiority.

Savage's attack didn't even seem to tickle him. I wouldn't be surprised if he let Savage hit him, thats how little he seemed to care. In fact, moving into a more open area only benefited him.

No, because he was still FAR superior in the all out. So it doesn't at all.

This isn't a ****ing forum fight. There is no divide between sabers and all-out. They were in a lightsaber duel. You are saying they were on par in the lightsaber duel. If that were true, that would be Sidious wavering in his superiority. End of story.

Originally posted by Nephthys

Savage's attack didn't even seem to tickle him. I wouldn't be surprised if he let Savage hit him, thats how little he seemed to care. In fact, moving into a more open area only benefited him.

While Sidious was hit and falling and the brothers were watching him fall, tell me how was he in the superior position in that second.

The superiority was there because he was easily able to use his Force powers to drag them down with him.