Best saber duelists

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Oh I thought you were saying that Obi-Wan was almost a match for Maul. Obviously we know Qui-Gon was no match for Maul so I just assumed you meant that Obi-Wan may have been greater than Qui-Gon.

Yeah that's true. His rage and aggression clearly enhanced his performance. But he won't be doing that under normal circumstances.

The older Obi-Wan actually started losing when CW Maul tried to get him angry in their first CW fight.

The rage thing doesn't suit his now much more advanced(and more Jedi-Like) style of combat.

I believe that Maul > Qui Gon by a little bit, and then Qui Gon > Obi-Wan by another bit. Though wasn't it said that Qui Gon was at a disadvantage due to ataru being shit in that setting, or something?

Yeah, that's true. He's (imo) one of the best duelists in the order now, and that's in no small part to how refined he is with his use of Soresu.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Though wasn't it said that Qui Gon was at a disadvantage due to ataru being shit in that setting, or something?

"Qui-Gon was on him in an instant, covering the distance separating them in a rush, hammering into the Sith Lord anew. But he was beginning to weary now from carrying the battle alone. His strokes were not so vigorous as before his face bathed with sweat and taut with fatigue. Slowly, Darth Maul began to edge his way back into the fight, becoming the aggressor once more."

However, before Qui-Gon's stamina gave out, he was fighting Maul quite evenly. In fact, he even gained the advantage for a bit after he meditated:

"[Obi-Wan] could only watch and wait and pray that Qui-Gon could hold on. It appeared that the Jedi Master would. He had found a fresh reserve of strength during his meditation, and now he was attacking with a ferocity that seemed to have the Sith Lord stymied. With quick, hard strokes of his lightsaber, he bored into his adversary, deliberately engaging in close-quarters combat, refusing to let the other bring his double-bladed weapon to bear. He drove Darth Maul backward about the rim of the overhang, keeping the Sith Lord constantly on the defensive, pressing in on him steadily. Qui-Gon Jinn might no longer be young, but he was still powerful. Darth Maul's ragged face took on a frenzied look, and the glitter of his strange eyes brightened with uncertainty."

Yeah sorry, that's what I meant. I know Ataru in and of itself isn't bad. After all look at Yoda.

Nice quotes though, thanks.

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Qui-Gon was no joke in sabers. In his youth he'd of smoked Maul, imo.

That, I believe.

Ataru was a fairly bad form for an older duelist because it does use more endurance compared to some of the others.

Not that it'd matter in most fights, but in a battle that long it drains the conditioning more.

Yeah. A form like that is more often than not going to favour someone younger with more energy,

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Done to death, but...

1. Luke Skywalker
2. Yoda | Palpatine
3. Revan
4. Jacen Solo
5. Darth Malgus
6. Arcann
7. Darth Nyriss
8. Outlander (Hero of Tython)
9. Darth Plagueis
10. Mace Windu
11. Emperor's Wrath II (SOR)
12. Darth Krayt
13. Anakin Skywalker
14. Lord Scourge | Darth Marr
15. Exar Kun | Count Dooku

Outlander > Arcann tho.

1. Luke Skywalker
2. Yoda
3. Palpatine
4. Krayt
5. Darth Plaguies
6. Revan/Caedus
7. Tulak Hord
8. Mace Windu
9. Anakin Skywalker
10. Obi-Wan Kenobi/Count Dooku/Exar Kun
11. Darth Vader/Ulic Qel-Droma/Darth Malgus

Darth Malgus?
Outlander?
Darth Nyriss?

Originally posted by JKBart
Darth Malgus?
Outlander?
Darth Nyriss?

Malgus I forgot about, same as the Outlander.

I don't consider taking down Rookie Scourge and a hindered Meetra Surik that impressive, even in sabers.

Plus she was amped, but so was Scourge, so meh.

1. Luke
2. Yoda
3. Palpatine
4. Anakin
5. Caedus
6. Krayt
7. Windu
8. Exar Kun
9. Vader
10. Dooku

Id put Vader above Exar,and Windu above Krayt personally. But my list would look something like yours

In all of Galactic history, still Dooku.

Originally posted by carthage
Id put Vader above Exar,and Windu above Krayt personally. But my list would look something like yours

Shit, I meant to put Vader above Exar.

Tulak Hord is underrated as a duelist, I think I'm the only one who really appreciates the guy :/

Originally posted by The Ellimist
1. Luke
2. Yoda
3. Palpatine
4. Anakin
5. Caedus
6. Krayt
7. Windu
8. Exar Kun
9. Vader
10. Dooku

Yeah, something like this. Plagueis should be here somewhere though, imo.

Originally posted by Trocity
Yeah, something like this. Plagueis should be here somewhere though, imo.

Shit, I forgot about him. And Tenebrous too tbh.