HP Doomsday Vs Zeus

Originally posted by abhilegend
Physical strength isn't the only powes darkseid has. Also he only said that superman is his physical peer while noting that orion's savagery is what keeps him in the game. This looks like a peer to you?
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/TheLegion029-18.jpg

Not to mention darkseid drops people like orion and firestorm with a wave of his hand and oneshots aggog who crushed orion and lightray simultaneously. Again, what's more embarrasing, getting beat by superman in a lengthy brawl after getting hit by omega beams or getting your teeth punched out by Ares?

It's kind of easy to forget the threads main topic when crap like this crops up isn't it? All the same Zeus stomps the living hell out of Doomsday. They aren't peers, or even close to being peers. DC allowed Darkseid to be butt raped, which indirectly looked bad for your boy in blue leotards, and his hot headed ugly friend. Just playing... or am I?

Originally posted by Stoic
It's kind of easy to forget the threads main topic when crap like this crops up isn't it? All the same Zeus stomps the living hell out of Doomsday. They aren't peers, or even close to being peers. DC allowed Darkseid to be butt raped, which indirectly looked bad for your boy in blue leotards, and his hot headed ugly friend. Just playing... or am I?

I don't think dc makes a strong distinction between skyfather and heralds. A case can be made for wielders of god like powers like the ones owned by darkseid, Shazam but when you want to get into physicality, superman is the top dog and Hp DD is rigth there. This is probabaly why DS calls him a physical peer. Also DD already tanked an attack comparable to the best Zeus has to offer, only thing is Zeus doesn't get drained like ds.

Zeus kills Doomsday with his fist.

Originally posted by carver9
Zeus kills Doomsday with his fist.

If a weakling like Hulk couldn't die, then Doomsday is unfazed by Zeus' physical attacks. twisted

Come at me bro.

Originally posted by Delta1938
If a weakling like Hulk couldn't die, then Doomsday is unfazed by Zeus' physical attacks. twisted

Come at me bro.

Hulk pinky toe>>>Doomsday. Savage Hulk is an amped Doomsday. 😄

Bring it.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk pinky toe>>>Doomsday. Savage Hulk is an amped Doomsday. 😄

Bring it.

We're talking what the comics show. Not your wet dreams. 😄

EDIT: You wanna take this to character ownage instead of derailing the thread here?

Originally posted by Delta1938
We're talking what the comics show. Not your wet dreams. 😄

EDIT: You wanna take this to character ownage instead of derailing the thread here?

No need, I just owned you here. 😕

Originally posted by abhilegend
Physical strength isn't the only powes darkseid has. Also he only said that superman is his physical peer while noting that orion's savagery is what keeps him in the game. This looks like a peer to you?
http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii315/darkseidres2/TheLegion029-18.jpg

The way DS handled Orion here is almost like the way Odin deals with Thor sometimes.

Originally posted by carver9
No need, I just owned you here. 😕

The face being confused is completely valid. 'Cuz you're confused about who's done the owning. 😉

It's funny how people love to exaggerate a characters physical stats, yet forget things like when an energy beam turns them to bones. Yet it's completely out of the question that Zeus could possibly do the same.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Lulz at this sad attempt at baiting. Just because zeus anal violated hulk, doesn't means that he can do the same to doomsday who beats the living hell out of people in zeus' power level.

Baiting? Nah that's what you just attempted to do. Don't try to role reverse with me by exercising your strawman routine, I'm not one of the softer minded people that you like to play that game on. I've already learned from reading your opinions that debating with you on anything that has to do with your Superman agenda is pointless, and it would be far easier to clap with one hand. Zeus wins.

Zeus wins easily

DD evolving hype needs to stop

Originally posted by Stoic
It's funny how people love to exaggerate a characters physical stats, yet forget things like when an energy beam turns them to bones. Yet it's completely out of the question that Zeus could possibly do the same.

Baiting? Nah that's what you just attempted to do. Don't try to role reverse with me by exercising your strawman routine, I'm not one of the softer minded people that you like to play that game on. I've already learned from reading your opinions that debating with you on anything that has to do with your Superman agenda is pointless, and it would be far easier to clap with one hand. Zeus wins.

There's about four or five people in this thread who are going to get warned if they can't learn to debate properly.

Either be on topic and be somewhat civil, or shut the **** up.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Nice cop out. First you tried to lowball darkseid and when I proved you wrong, you tried to turn it into some sort of agenda from me. Run away like every hulk fanboy does. If he's going h2h its split, nothing more nothing less. A lesser team of avengers than which doomsday steamrolled in doomsday wars brought zeus to his knees. Only someone like you can compare imperiex to zeus captainstoic. Frankly I'm not surprised with all your "hulk is lightspeed" stupidity.

read the OP. Zeus wins.

Leaving out Physical interaction for now, Stoic what's Zeus' best magical attack? how has HP DD fared to attacks of this level?

Originally posted by Stoic
read the OP. Zeus wins.

Also just wanted to add, HP DD tanked getting hit by something Darkseid's ancestors tried in vain to attain. The OE was a power all the kings of Apokolips wanted it, this means that Skyfather level, even Elder God level beings wanted OE and only DS was able to get it. And because of this, I think OE is greater than Zeus' lightening bolts. HP DD tanked 2 back to back from point blank range and got back up and beat up DS in 2 panels, worse than thanos beating up on Surfer. This and the fact that superman amped with eradicator's energies and the motherbox was an annoyance to him is why I think HP DD takes this.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Leaving out Physical interaction for now, Stoic what's Zeus' best magical attack? how has HP DD fared to attacks of this level?

Zeus could do a number of things, like open up portals to other dimensions, and eye zapping Doomsday into them. Zeus while slightly amplified, decked Galactus. I am of the opinion that guys on Zeus' level are a few tiers up on guys like the Hulk, Superman, Doomsday, and any of the other bricks or guys that have given them trouble. There has been many people that have brought up the no limit fallacy theory. When does that rule begin to apply to anyone other than the Hulk? Back on topic Zeus wins, and easily at that. In the same comic that he trounced the Hulk, we see an image of him, and he's as big as a mountain, now I wouldn't give him the auto-win in every case due to size alone,but this isn't Giant Man that we are discussing. Nor would it be a very competitive match for Zeus in terms of Doomsday butt raping him like he did to Darkseid.

It is what it is. I'm not low balling Darkseid. Low Balling him would be bringing up his failure to walk down a flight of stairs. Superman wrecked him twice when he went all out and stopped with the kiddie punches. In DOTNG, Darkseid says that Superman and Orion are his physical peers, now any other interpretation other than what was stated becomes opinion, that no one really has to pay regards to, I certainly won't, or attempt to spin it in some new direction. Hey man freedom of thought, believe what you want, but Zeus doesn't need to have these major feat and showings. At base and in his sleep Doomsday could probably wreck Zeus, but let's not forget that he can amplify his abilities to places that Doomsday can not follow. Not only that, but he has power sets that could literally weaken Doomsday's physical structure.

This is not a contest, Zeus would destroy him, and blast his molecules across the universe.

Originally posted by Stoic
It's funny how people love to exaggerate a characters physical stats, yet forget things like when an energy beam turns them to bones. Yet it's completely out of the question that Zeus could possibly do the same.

Yes, because Zeus=/>Imperiex Prime.

Originally posted by Stoic
Baiting? Nah that's what you just attempted to do. Don't try to role reverse with me by exercising your strawman routine, I'm not one of the softer minded people that you like to play that game on. I've already learned from reading your opinions that debating with you on anything that has to do with your Superman agenda is pointless, and it would be far easier to clap with one hand. Zeus wins.

If that's the case about Abhi's "agenda," then why did you bother in the first place?

No, it looks like a cop-out. You were arguing against Doomsday partially because of Darkseid. You equate Darkseid's physical power to his overall power, focusing on Darkseid's hand-to-hand losses and ignoring Abhi's examples of Darkseid's other abilities. Then, when you painted yourself into a corner, you suddenly jump to the rule of we discuss most current version if not specified, but ignored the fact that the topic is about H/P Doomsday, so thus we compare him to Pre-DCnU versions of characters he's faced, thus your argument of Post-FLASHPOINT Darkseid lacking feats as irrelevant.

If you think Zeus has enough physical power to win when discussing hand-to-hand, then fine. But leave trying to argue that Darkseid's physical stats are all that matters when comparing how Doomsday did against him in your gauging of Doomsday. Not to mention you've ignored some of the examples Abhi's brought-up painting Zeus in not such a good light.

And if being a peer to Orion and Superman and losing to Superman hand-to-hand is a bad showing, then what does that make the fight with Ares(if correct; I haven't seen it myself) that Abhi pointed-out?