HP Doomsday Vs Zeus

Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Doomsday would clearly do better against Zeus than Hulk did. To argue otherwise is asinine. But there is no way he's even coming close to beating Zeus either. This thread is completely retarded and I have no idea why it's still open. Even if you were deluded enough to think DD could physically hang with Zeus, BFR is ON. Every other power Zeus has IS ON. DD has zero chance to beat Zeus here. It's beyond spite.

Why is it spite?
What feats does Zeus has that shows he can one shot DD or come close?

If you avoid the question then you are trolling.

Originally posted by carver9
Savage Hulk is stronger than Doomsday.

No he isn't. Superman is stronger than Savage Hulk.
And any being that can send a claw through Superman like Superman is made of liquid is far stronger than WWH.
DD is more durable than WWH as well and faster and more relentless and has bony protrusions. Strength isn't everything.

Can anyone answer why people think that a taller Zeus is a stronger Zeus? Was Odin stronger when he headbutted galactus ? This is different than the hulk growing after absorbing gamma radiation which likely increases his strength. What has Zeus absorbed that would increase his strength just by growing taller? I am sorry but this doesn't make sense. Regarding no limit fallacy, can zeus increase his strength to infinity? He increased it enough to surpass wwh and then beat him up bad enough to prevent hulk from getting madder to reach Zeus' level. Or is that impossible for the hulk? Or does Zeus also gets stronger like the hulk and always stays ahead?

I guess the "no limit fallacy" can only be used to support your side.

Originally posted by Stoic
Isn't that what happened? Darkseid stood there with a weapon capable of ending the entire charade, but instead took an ass whipping? Isn't that what happened? The writer wrote him up that way, don't get mad at me for pointing it out. Firelord sat there as well and got whipped. PIS exists in comics or it wouldn't be an issue in forum debates. I've spent too much time with this thread, and stand by my opinion that Zeus would defeat HP/DD if he used his powers instead of stand there saying impossible like Darksed did.

So you're just going to completely ignore the CIS that was in play on Darkseid's end of it all?

Darkseid could use the OE on plenty of people, but he doesn't. You can't just single out Doomsday because he's the one in the thread.

What I find funny is that people only read one issue/scan and decide that they are the expert on the character. Even under pak zeus has some terrible low showings like in Hulk/Hercules:when titans collide a spear from a random giant owned him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What I find funny is that people only read one issue/scan and decide that they are the expert on the character. Even under pak zeus has some terrible low showings like in Hulk/Hercules:when titans collide a spear from a random giant owned him.

Doomsday doesn't stand a chance against Zeus.

Originally posted by -Pr-
So you're just going to completely ignore the CIS that was in play on Darkseid's end of it all?

Darkseid could use the OE on plenty of people, but he doesn't. You can't just single out Doomsday because he's the one in the thread.

Actually that's pretty much what I pointed out. What are you really getting at?

Originally posted by Stoic
Actually that's pretty much what I pointed out. What are you really getting at?

That you can't do that.

There was CIS in play and that Darkseid had believed he had used sufficient power to put DD down.

An argument could be made that with CIS on, Zeus will think he's able to physically go toe to toe, and then fail to amp himself sufficiently.

MAYBE.

Hewlett Packard Doomsday!!!

Originally posted by -Pr-
That you can't do that.

There was CIS in play and that Darkseid had believed he had used sufficient power to put DD down.

OK, and then he found out that he didn't so there was still time for him to use the OE again once he saw Doomsday rise, grunt, and begin to run towards him. Why at that moment didn't he erase him? I think it goes beyond CIS here, and delves more into plot, or Hunter Prey would have never been written. In a forum match up Darkseid would have been Doomsday's first and final stop. There would have been no arm breaks, head stomps, or any of the other things that transpired within the arc.

Thus you can't begin to believe that Zeus would stand there mouth agape, saying uhm.. gee what should I do now, uhm should I ... just stand here, and say things like holy smokes, or impossible, no one could ever... etc...

The entire HP arc went against Darkseid's very character, or should I believe that his enormous ego came into play and caused him to become shocked beyond measure that anyone outside of Superman could take a hit from his concussive OE attack? Look, if you can't understand why I've said what I've said, or see my stance on the entire thing, there's really nothing that I can do here.

Originally posted by Stoic
OK, and then he found out that he didn't so there was still time for him to use the OE again once he saw Doomsday rise, grunt, and begin to run towards him. Why at that moment didn't he erase him? I think it goes beyond CIS here, and delves more into plot, or Hunter Prey would have never been written. In a forum match up Darkseid would have been Doomsday's first and final stop. There would have been no arm breaks, head stomps, or any of the other things that transpired within the arc.

Thus you can't begin to believe that Zeus would stand there mouth agape, saying uhm.. gee what should I do now, uhm should I ... just stand here, and say things like holy smokes, or impossible, no one could ever... etc...

The entire HP arc went against Darkseid's very character, or should I believe that his enormous ego came into play and caused him to become shocked beyond measure that anyone outside of Superman could take a hit from his concussive OE attack? Look, if you can't understand why I've said what I've said, or see my stance on the entire thing, there's really nothing that I can do here.

Doomsday has super speed.

And Darkseid, like I said, had felt fear due to Doomsday, a feat not many, if any, character has managed. This was blatantly stated as having happened before they met on this occasion.

And no, I'm not saying Zeus would act the same. Just that it's not the equivalent of SvFL.

I do see your stance; I just don't agree with it, because I don't think you're taking everything in to account, tbh.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Doomsday has super speed.

And Darkseid, like I said, had felt fear due to Doomsday, a feat not many, if any, character has managed. This was blatantly stated as having happened before they met on this occasion.

And no, I'm not saying Zeus would act the same. Just that it's not the equivalent of SvFL.

I do see your stance; I just don't agree with it, because I don't think you're taking everything in to account, tbh.

Let's get down to it. Superman did not have to take the beating that he took from Doomsday if he fought him like he did with Rex Doomsday when he decided to vibrate past his fists.

Doomsday may have super speed, but the OE would have gotten him before he reached Darkseid.

If Darkseid was that scared, he should have never been on the battle field.

Superman beating Darkseid twice is no low feat until you climb into the Sky Father tier, and then it becomes bush league, when you consider the guys that have given Superman fits.

So what are you supposed believe, or go by? Superman wrecks Darkseid, and then Darkseid comes back and wrecks someone that gives Superman fits, only to read another book of the guy that gives Superman fits lose handily to the guy that Superman wrecks... Wait a sec it gets better. The guy that gives Superman fits but gets wrecked by the guy that Superman wrecked says that Orion is his peer, and yet he casually wrecks him for shits and giggles.

So what we end up with is a massive cluster phuck of epic failing proportions, and I'm sitting back with a friend of mine saying that DC is going to have another crisis series, because they messed up their continuity again. So what do we get? DCnU so that we can begin again.

Back on topic though, Zeus would butt wrangle Doomsday because he has the character to do so, and the power to back it up. Now to end this in a bang, another poster will appear, and state that Doomsday would evolve, and I will sit back and wonder why he didn't evolve past the blast given him by Imperiex, even if Imperiex happens to be more powerful than Zeus, but would Zeus really have to be? probably not, and then the game will begin anew.

^^ I didn't see any of the guys picking Doomsday use evolving past Zeus in their argument. Zeus that raped WWH can't amp himself enough to harm Doomsday. Only option he has is BFR.

Originally posted by Diesldude
^^ I didn't see any of the guys picking Doomsday use evolving past Zeus in their argument. Zeus that raped WWH can't amp himself enough to harm Doomsday. Only option he has is BFR.

WTF? REALLY...LIKE REALLY?

Originally posted by Stoic
Let's get down to it. Superman did not have to take the beating that he took from Doomsday if he fought him like he did with Rex Doomsday when he decided to vibrate past his fists.

Doomsday may have super speed, but the OE would have gotten him before he reached Darkseid.

If Darkseid was that scared, he should have never been on the battle field.

Superman beating Darkseid twice is no low feat until you climb into the Sky Father tier, and then it becomes bush league, when you consider the guys that have given Superman fits.

So what are you supposed believe, or go by? Superman wrecks Darkseid, and then Darkseid comes back and wrecks someone that gives Superman fits, only to read another book of the guy that gives Superman fits lose handily to the guy that Superman wrecks... Wait a sec it gets better. The guy that gives Superman fits but gets wrecked by the guy that Superman wrecked says that Orion is his peer, and yet he casually wrecks him for shits and giggles.

So what we end up with is a massive cluster phuck of epic failing proportions, and I'm sitting back with a friend of mine saying that DC is going to have another crisis series, because they messed up their continuity again. So what do we get? DCnU so that we can begin again.

Back on topic though, Zeus would butt wrangle Doomsday because he has the character to do so, and the power to back it up. Now to end this in a bang, another poster will appear, and state that Doomsday would evolve, and I will sit back and wonder why he didn't evolve past the blast given him by Imperiex, even if Imperiex happens to be more powerful than Zeus, but would Zeus really have to be? probably not, and then the game will begin anew.

H/P Doomsday was far more powerful, and by extension far faster, than Rex.

Darkseid couldn't believe Doomsday was standing. That, coupled with his fear, could have easily been the reason why he didn't try to zap him again.

Superman is like Wolverine or Batman; he has plot armour and beats plenty of people he shouldn't. Besides, Darkseid has beaten Superman more than vice versa.

That wasn't why DC did the reboot. 😕

Originally posted by carver9
WTF? REALLY...LIKE REALLY?

Like looking in a mirror, eh carv?

Doomsday does way better than Hulk did, Zeus still wins though.

Originally posted by Diesldude
^^ I didn't see any of the guys picking Doomsday use evolving past Zeus in their argument. Zeus that raped WWH can't amp himself enough to harm Doomsday. Only option he has is BFR.

Originally posted by h1a8
Not physically. He get's bfr though.

Originally posted by h1a8
What feats does Zeus has that shows him being able to one shot DD? Also how will Zeus contend with DD's speed and viciousness?

Originally posted by h1a8
This is trolling. You can't say Zues wins because of his stature or name. We go by feats. Can Zeus one shot DD? If not, then how is he going to win without bfr?

What feats of poweroutput does Zeus have to show he can one shot DD?
If he can't one shot him then he would lose because DD would adapt and speed blitz.
DD has superior speed and will run through Zeus before he can react (unless you know of some speed and reaction feats Zeus has).

This is silly.
HP DD stomps.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Odin will in order to pool their resources. Their best chance is to BFR DD.

Originally posted by h1a8
If he doesn't then DD would simply adapt to be more resistant which would make the fight harder to win. DD gets harder as the fight progresses so one must beat him early or he wins.

Originally posted by -Pr-
H/P Doomsday was far more powerful, and by extension far faster, than Rex.

Darkseid couldn't believe Doomsday was standing. That, coupled with his fear, could have easily been the reason why he didn't try to zap him again.

Superman is like Wolverine or Batman; he has plot armour and beats plenty of people he shouldn't. Besides, Darkseid has beaten Superman more than vice versa.

That wasn't why DC did the reboot. 😕

Like looking in a mirror, eh carv?

I disagree with a lot in this post...especially the last part.