Originally posted by Stoic
Even though he could have erased him? He has the power to do so, just as Firelord had the power to roast Spiderman, but he instead played a cat and mouse game with him, and ended up as the mouse. It's your right to disagree -Pr-, but it does not remove the idea that Darkseid had the power all along to put a stop to the facade from jump street.
And if every character exercised that right, comics would be about three pages long.
I'm not even arguing that Doomsday beats Zeus, I just don't get why Darkseid is being treated with such disdain. I mean, he could wipe out anyone with his OE, but we're supposed to just assume he's an idiot with his powers?
Originally posted by -Pr-Easy, it is to lessen's HP DD's feats which will then be ineffectual in this argument.
And if every character exercised that right, comics would be about three pages long.I'm not even arguing that Doomsday beats Zeus, I just don't get why Darkseid is being treated with such disdain. I mean, he could wipe out anyone with his OE, but we're supposed to just assume he's an idiot with his powers?
Originally posted by -Pr-
And if every character exercised that right, comics would be about three pages long.I'm not even arguing that Doomsday beats Zeus, I just don't get why Darkseid is being treated with such disdain. I mean, he could wipe out anyone with his OE, but we're supposed to just assume he's an idiot with his powers?
Isn't that what happened? Darkseid stood there with a weapon capable of ending the entire charade, but instead took an ass whipping? Isn't that what happened? The writer wrote him up that way, don't get mad at me for pointing it out. Firelord sat there as well and got whipped. PIS exists in comics or it wouldn't be an issue in forum debates. I've spent too much time with this thread, and stand by my opinion that Zeus would defeat HP/DD if he used his powers instead of stand there saying impossible like Darksed did.
Originally posted by Diesldude
Here u to buddy this was in response to your post too! LOLLook for my post near the middle..
Uuuuummm, that post didn't prove anything but "your opinion". Who blood was it.?
Originally posted by ColossusGrundy
This is wrong.DD would eventually do better............... in subsequent fights. WBH wouldn't... he dont' evolve.
Just pukes when Zeus hits him.
ow.
To evolve means to change. The Hulk constantly changes. Now about that no limits fallacy. Does it exist for one but not the other?
Originally posted by carver9It wasn't doomsdays because we saw him cut and he didn't bleed. Do you need scans? Apokolips is a inhabited planet and a building got destroyed. Those people bleed, doomsday doesn't so make your own conclusions, coming up with the right answer isn't too difficult.
Uuuuummm, that post didn't prove anything but "your opinion". Who blood was it.?
Originally posted by Stoic
Isn't that what happened? Darkseid stood there with a weapon capable of ending the entire charade, but instead took an ass whipping? Isn't that what happened? The writer wrote him up that way, don't get mad at me for pointing it out. Firelord sat there as well and got whipped. PIS exists in comics or it wouldn't be an issue in forum debates. I've spent too much time with this thread, and stand by my opinion that Zeus would defeat HP/DD if he used his powers instead of stand there saying impossible like Darksed did.
Now you know how some people feel with the WWH storyline.
But that's not relevant to this thread. I only brought it up so you can remember how you feel right now, and maybe that would ease the anger in future threads.
If it was a purely physical brawl, Doomsday would win. With all his other powers, Zeus would wreck that beautiful face of Doomy's.
Originally posted by Diesldude
It wasn't doomsdays because we saw him cut and he didn't bleed. Do you need scans? Apokolips is a inhabited planet and a building got destroyed. Those people bleed, doomsday doesn't so make your own conclusions, coming up with the right answer isn't too difficult.
Who blood was it.?
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Superman and Doomsday together couldn't beat Zeus.
Prove that Zeus can beat DD using feats and not speculation.
Originally posted by Branlor Swift
Zeus' bird destroyed adamantium missiles, so there's that in retort to Darkseid's missile feat.Darkseid also didn't seem to be written too well there either. Hell, Jurgens also had Darkseid be scared of Doomsday, so he really liked to write him up. Plus there's also the thing about Doomsday cheapshotting the dick out of him.
Zeus bird=/= Zeus
DS instant vapored the missiles with less than half power, and not merely destroyed them. Big difference.
Cheapshot or not if DD landed a good blow in a fair fight then it would have ended the same since it was a combo.
Originally posted by Stoic
Feats aren't the be all end all, while status as a premiere Sky Father isn't either, but just for shits and giggles, Zeus can transform into a mountain sized giant, and stomp, stomp, stomp on Doomsday. Darkseid on the other hand was turned into a whipping boy by Doomsday, who was also beaten so bad by Superman that he could not open his eyes. Darkseid also stated that Superman, and Orion were physical peers of his. Zeus is above these guys.With this knowledge, you should realize that Zeus has never been written as a peer of some elite top tier, which is exactly what Darkseid had become.
We go by feats. Otherwise we end up with is pure speculation.
Zeus turning into a giant doesn't prove anything. He might get his foot cut up badly if he stepped on DD. See how i speculated there. But seriously Zeus wins because of who he is just got to stop. It's not logical. What about who HP DD is?
Hell Superman wasn't even a peer to him anymore.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Now you know how some people feel with the WWH storyline.But that's not relevant to this thread. I only brought it up so you can remember how you feel right now, and maybe that would ease the anger in future threads.
If it was a purely physical brawl, Doomsday would win. With all his other powers, Zeus would wreck that beautiful face of Doomy's.
Zeus amplified his physical stats when he smashed the Hulk though. He would do the same with Doomsday. Hulk couldn't even heal properly due to something that Zeus did on a magical level. The Zeus vs Hulk battle beat-down wasn't a purely physical one, because Zeus at base is a class 70 to begin with, and then we see him hitting the Hulk with magically charged lightning fists. If you replaced the Hulk with Doomsday, the same crap would have happened based on Zeus' abilities to alter matter.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Now you know how some people feel with the WWH storyline.But that's not relevant to this thread. I only brought it up so you can remember how you feel right now, and maybe that would ease the anger in future threads.
If it was a purely physical brawl, Doomsday would win. With all his other powers, Zeus would wreck that beautiful face of Doomy's.
How is Doomsday going to win if Zeus alters his size and literally stomps him or uses his magic amped punches, something like the kryptonians or even Hulk, he has no active defense against? Whether this is hth or all powers, Doomsday gets wrecked hard.
Doomsday would clearly do better against Zeus than Hulk did. To argue otherwise is asinine. But there is no way he's even coming close to beating Zeus either. This thread is completely retarded and I have no idea why it's still open. Even if you were deluded enough to think DD could physically hang with Zeus, BFR is ON. Every other power Zeus has IS ON. DD has zero chance to beat Zeus here. It's beyond spite.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
Doomsday would clearly do better against Zeus than Hulk did. To argue otherwise is asinine. But there is no way he's even coming close to beating Zeus either. This thread is completely retarded and I have no idea why it's still open. Even if you were deluded enough to think DD could physically hang with Zeus, BFR is ON. Every other power Zeus has IS ON. DD has zero chance to beat Zeus here. It's beyond spite.
Savage Hulk is stronger than Doomsday.
Originally posted by Damborgson
Zeus turning into a giant doesn't prove anything. He might get his foot cut up badly if he stepped on DD. See how I speculated there.
You left out "See how I speculated there." I was trying to show Stoic without proof we have speculation. I wasn't serious obviously.
Leaving out stuff of course makes my posts look retarded. Don't you think?