Originally posted by abhilegend
Darkseid is completely in the same ballpark as zeus. People should read about both characters before making wild claims. As for the fight, if its pak zeus he wins whether h2h or not. Any other version and its a toss up in h2h.
👆 Btw I wouldn't as well ever put Zeus in any comparison to Imperiex who is many times beyond him, Celestials and Eternity/Kismet.
Originally posted by StoicWhy are you apologizing bro, this is just a conversation about comic book characters lol. HP Dd doesn't have to evolve, his punches are going to put a hurting on zeus and make him forget his thunderbolts or even that he can teleport him. I don't believe that Zeus can hurt him for the fact that DS wasn't made into a weak sauce like you believe. Him destroying the missiles which superman could't dent using his eye beams hhhmmm where have we seen that? King Thor melting Cap's shield, iirc written by jurgens, same guy who wrote this. If you deem one of his charcters as a sky father why not another of his character doing the same thing? A weakened DS did that and then one shotted cyborg superman, but almost got killed in 2 panels against DD. He took everything from Ds who was on par with king Thor IMO and he dropped him worse than Zeus did to wwh. Zeus does win with BFR but if he decides to fight he loses hard.
His bio states that he is a class 70 at base. Since he has very little showings, one is forced to go off of his hand book entries. His power also does not have to be at the Living Tribunal's level to beat up on HP Doomsday. Again this isn't Hank Pym in Giant Man mode, this is Zeus who happens to be able to transmute matter. He could in fact regress Doomsday on a molecular level, which is another one of his powers. What can Doomsday do? Punch? Jump? evolve? Is there a no limits fallacy that can be placed on how powerful this guy can become, or is that only placed on the Hulk? You're inability to accept that Zeus would win shows me several things. However I won't be convinced that he would win if Zeus is actually allowed to use his powers like an intelligent and well written character.Doomsday is outgunned here. Sorry that Darkseid didn't opt to finish things off, and was made to look like a butt monkey, but that's just how things went. Sorry about that.
Originally posted by Delta1938
This is probably nitpicking, and very well could be considered getting off-topic, but I have to point-out Superman wasn't amped by the Eradicator's energies(meaning energy from the Eradicator himself), but had been powered-up by Kryptonite radiation that Eradicator had filtered and altered.So because Darkseid isn't in the topic, his reasoning for why he thinks the Omega Effect, which Doomsday bounced back from, is so powerful is irrelevant? huh Guess then you can't bring-up anything Zeus did to opponents.
IIRC, the Omegas KILLED Doomsday. His evolving powers brought him back to life. He didn't tank anything.
By the way, Darkseid sucks.
Originally posted by carver9
Also, Zeus temporarily held off Chaos King with his magic. Just brought that up because someone asked for fts involving Zeus magic.
We need to make a rule on the site that Chaos War can't be used as evidence of ANYTHING. Chaos King made Death run away. Do I have to say anything else?
Originally posted by Diesldude
Why are you apologizing bro, this is just a conversation about comic book characters lol. HP Dd doesn't have to evolve, his punches are going to put a hurting on zeus and make him forget his thunderbolts or even that he can teleport him. I don't believe that Zeus can hurt him for the fact that DS wasn't made into a weak sauce like you believe. Him destroying the missiles which superman could't dent using his eye beams hhhmmm where have we seen that? King Thor melting Cap's shield, iirc written by jurgens, same guy who wrote this. If you deem one of his charcters as a sky father why not another of his character doing the same thing? A weakened DS did that and then one shotted cyborg superman, but almost got killed in 2 panels against DD. He took everything from Ds who was on par with king Thor IMO and he dropped him worse than Zeus did to wwh. Zeus does win with BFR but if he decides to fight he loses hard.
Now I know that you're a sock.
Skyfather going exotic with their powers would basically be hp dd getting killed in some form that wasn't experienced before (but would neverthless adapt to it) or bfr. Then again, Zeus could just reduce him to skeleton like how Imperiex owned dd.
Physically...hmm I remember back in the day, Zeus summarily owned a group of avengers including photon, thor, namor, black knight, dr druid, cap, etc so I don't think he's a slouch in the physical department.
Here u to buddy this was in response to your post too! LOL
Look for my post near the middle..