Flashs vs Cosmic Heros

Started by leonidas17 pages

except:

https://imgur.com/4HEi9ej

and no scans to show a bunch of other top tier guys doing the same thing....? 😂 i'm shocked.

btw claiming the ability is ineffective is NOT the same as showing some other character(s) doing it, no matter how often you repeat your strawman claims. recall, you stated grandly that all top tier guys can see time the way ss can.

so while you continue to strawman, i'll continue waiting for the scans that show someone else (multiple others) doing the same thing ss did in the above scan 👆

Sounds like Surfer will be able to see the future of his face getting smacked in 👆

Or he siphons speedforce energy or severs the connection to the speed force by gene altering/editing. Imagine the Surfer with the Speedforce?

I wonder if Surfer could be speed stolen. On the one hand, Barry and Wally are gods of kinetic energy. On the other hand, Surfer said "nah" to Mephisto using the time gem on him.

Not that they need speed steal to be faster than him, just has me wondering.

Besides the Anti Monitor showing, does Flash have any other showings of him taking out someone on Surfers level?

Originally posted by Smurph
I wonder if Surfer could be speed stolen. On the one hand, Barry and Wally are gods of kinetic energy. On the other hand, Surfer said "nah" to Mephisto using the time gem on him.

Not that they need speed steal to be faster than him, just has me wondering.

Yeah, but according to the current Flash run, the Speed Force is like infinitely bigger than someone like Mephisto

Originally posted by Senor Cage
Yeah, but according to the current Flash run, the Speed Force is like infinitely bigger than someone like Mephisto

That didn't answer his question, though. Surfer would probably look at Flash like he is crazy trying to speed steal him.

Originally posted by Senor Cage
Yeah, but according to the current Flash run, the Speed Force is like infinitely bigger than someone like Mephisto
Mephisto was not the most significant part of that feat.

Just saying the Speed Force is probably top 5 - 10 most powerful forces/beings (cause it's living) in the DC Multiverse. And Wally hasn't even began to know it's full power.

I won't comment on where the infinity gems fall in Marvel, lest I summon Mr. Master like Beetlejuice, but you get the point. And the notable thing was that Surfer seemingly rendered himself immune.

Maybe PIS? But then, he did it vs Tyrant with the reality gem too. I assume he couldn't replicate it against a full IG, but still it's quite something.

Granted, the things we hear about the Speed Force here are from the Arc Angles' perspective. But at the same time, what they say kind of makes sense, even if it is perturbing. I'm all on board with the idea that the Speed Force is sentient and even that it consciously chooses speedsters. But the idea that it wants them not for justice or meaning, but to act as organs like eyeballs and skin is a bit...icky. I suppose it's better than the Speed Force being a source of evil, but it puts the Flash Family in a creepy new light.

Kinda crazy what Spiurier is doing to the Flash mythos but the speed force connects all cosmic forces within the multiverse.

https://screenrant.com/flash-speed-force-alive-conduits-nervous-system/

Originally posted by Smurph
I won't comment on where the infinity gems fall in Marvel, lest I summon Mr. Master like Beetlejuice, but you get the point. And the notable thing was that Surfer seemingly rendered himself immune.

Maybe PIS? But then, he did it vs Tyrant with the reality gem too. I assume he couldn't replicate it against a full IG, but still it's quite something.

And with the soul stone...


Hey Smurph I'm pretty sure there's another from that time period from Alicia. Less on the nose but I feel like he showed up somewhere and was able to peel back the layers of time and view what happened at the scene earlier. Not that it would directly be a speed feat, but it certainly supports the notion that he sees time differently than others

Originally posted by leonidas
except:

https://imgur.com/4HEi9ej

and no scans to show a bunch of other top tier guys doing the same thing....? 😂 i'm shocked.

Making claims of seeing the future, here's Invincible famously saying it.

Since we just need claims and no feats for it.

btw claiming the ability is ineffective is NOT the same as showing some other character(s) doing it, no matter how often you repeat your strawman claims. recall, you stated grandly that all top tier guys can see time the way ss can.

Ineffective? He simply doesn't have any such ability despite what he claims.

so while you continue to strawman, i'll continue waiting for the scans that show someone else (multiple others) doing the same thing ss did in the above scan 👆

😂

As always, you simply can't accept that your stance was silly.

Originally posted by carver9
Besides the Anti Monitor showing, does Flash have any other showings of him taking out someone on Surfers level?

Of course, because Surfer is Anti Monitor level.
Originally posted by Smurph
I wonder if Surfer could be speed stolen. On the one hand, Barry and Wally are gods of kinetic energy. On the other hand, Surfer said "nah" to Mephisto using the time gem on him.

Not that they need speed steal to be faster than him, just has me wondering.


Mephisto kicked his ass (as usual) and he was saved by Eve Warlock.

https://readcomiconline.li/Comic/Silver-Surfer-Rebirth-Legacy/Issue-5?id=224170&s=&readType=1

He did change back from Norrin Radd to Silver Surfer when changed by Time gem.

Originally posted by carver9
And with the soul stone...



A few pages later.

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/24593394/SS_v3_015_17a.jpg.html

Should have sensed the future there.

Superman has straight up 4d vision.

https://imgur.com/a/QfD78

I'll start every thread with that one, thanks Leo.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman has straight up 4d vision.

https://imgur.com/a/QfD78

I'll start every thread with that one, thanks Leo.

In order to progress the way this thread has, you would need to say "Superman perceives things differently than most people" and then wait 13 years for somebody to petulantly cry "No!" in response.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Hey Smurph I'm pretty sure there's another from that time period from Alicia. Less on the nose but I feel like he showed up somewhere and was able to peel back the layers of time and view what happened at the scene earlier. Not that it would directly be a speed feat, but it certainly supports the notion that he sees time differently than others
I think you mean the same one Leo referred to by way of that screen rant article.

It's the one I was thinking of when he talks about the universe imposing a chronological view on the mind, or something.

Originally posted by Smurph
In order to progress the way this thread has, you would need to say "Superman perceives things differently than most people" and then wait 13 years for somebody to petulantly cry "No!" in response.

You're right, I should have done this a decade ago, continuously spamming it everywhere, I'll be as respected on the forum as Saint Goober by now.