Originally posted by Galan007Are you kidding me ? Champion was an absolute joke with the power gem and destroying a planet is something Gladiator can do so to suggest destroying a planet can get the better of Thor with a power gem is ridiculous.
Sorry, I should have been clearer. I was mainly referring to who appeared to tap the gem's potential better-- and in that regard Champion was >, as he used the gem's power to destroy a planet. Thor, on the other hand, didn't do much of note with it aside from battling Thanos.But even with all of Thor's feats taken into consideration, how is he winning? OP says fight is to the KO/death, so I'm assuming BFR isn't allowed...
Originally posted by Galan007Thor resisted Warlock, Strange, and the Infinity Watch and sonned them like a b rate team. That's far better than Thanos clearly goading him into using the power necessary to destroy a planet. The only reason it was destroyed was because Thanos set him up for it.
Champion was not a joke with the gem in the slightest. That notion is laughable to say the least.Champ preformed far more impressive feats with the gem then Thor did. That is all I'm saying.
Thor was on another level than Champion. Thor's skills and powers are more formidable than Champion's to boot.
Originally posted by quanchi112Champ /w/ the gem trounced Surfer, Warlock, Bill, and Gladiator-- trounced them so badly that they were forced to recuperate in a friggin' medical ward after said beating. Champ also soaked everything Thanos threw at him(he literally walked through Thanos' energy blasts) before destroying the planet they were on... Without sustaining so much as a scratch in the process.
Thor resisted Warlock, Strange, and the Infinity Watch and sonned them like a b rate team. That's far better than Thanos clearly goading him into using the power necessary to destroy a planet. The only reason it was destroyed was because Thanos set him up for it.Thor was on another level than Champion. Thor's skills and powers are more formidable than Champion's to boot.
I have no problem with a stalemate here, but sans BFR, there is no way Thor is winning.
Originally posted by Galan007So you admit Thor beat better than who Champion beat. The only reason they didn't end up dead is because they teleported him to Thanos. Surfer and Warlock were beat by him before he even got the power gem.
Champ /w/ the gem trounced Surfer, Warlock, Bill, and Gladiator-- trounced them so badly that they were forced to recuperate in a friggin' medical ward after said beating. Champ also soaked everything Thanos threw at him(he literally walked through Thanos' energy blasts) before destroying the planet they were on... Without sustaining so much as a scratch in the process.I have no problem with a stalemate here, but sans BFR, there is no way Thor is winning.
Thor wasn't hurt against Thanos either because that is what the power gem does. Thor took on superior and defeated a superior team. Thor's abilities are superior as well.
Thor also beat the power gem out of Drax. Thor wrecks him.
I honestly think the key here is which side you fall on...
Some people Champion has overall better fighting skill and is stronger (hence the destroying the planet with ease) taking Thanos shots with ease.. While thor was still thrown around.
Or
It seems through narration that Thor was ACTUALLY able to tap the gem and utilize it better than champion did. Narratino made it clear he was growing in power more and more.. Champion wasn't tapping the gem like Thor was so eventually Thor would win...
You are suggesting that Thor /w/ gem is physically more powerful than Champ /w/ gem? Feats would suggest otherwise.
They both busted through Thanos' shields(though I'm pretty sure Thor didn't walk through any attacks as easily as Champ did.)
They both trounced multiple heralds.
They both busted a planet via physical means... Oh wait, only Champ did that.
mmm
Originally posted by Galan007Thor was more impressive and beat better teams. Thor has more abilities. Thor is the better fighter. Thor already beat a pg Drax. Thor would beat Champion as well.
You are suggesting that Thor /w/ gem is physically more powerful than Champ /w/ gem? Feats would suggest otherwise.They both busted through Thanos' shields(though I'm pretty sure Thor didn't walk through any attacks as easily as Champ did.)
They both trounced multiple heralds.
They both busted a planet via physical means... Oh wait, only Champ did that.mmm