PG Thor vs PG Champion

Started by Nihilist12 pages

Originally posted by Galan007
You are very quick to pop into thread and make snide comments. When you do, at least have your facts straight.

Not only was Thor blasted back by Thanos, but he looked to be in pain as well:

Same can be said about Champ. However, he got right back up and walked through(literally) Thanos' subsequent blast:

Not saying Thor couldn't have done the same, he just... Never did. Champion did, though.

Furthermore, Champ has more than just "one feat" under his belt.

He went on to destroy that very planet:

And he also beat the phuck out of the finest heralds out there:

Surfer, Warlock, Drax, Gladiator, and Bill.

The best feat Thor has with the gem is beating a few heralds, and fighting Thanos. That's why I said that Champ's gem-feats are more impressive. Regardless, I still see no way Thor can win here. Stalemate, imo.

your the one who should get facts straight, as I've said from the start its a stalemate..plus you have Been pushing the one feat rules all nonsense not me

Thanos had more trouble against Thor w/PG than he did against Champion with it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So busting a planet is more impressive than beating Strange, Warlock, the Watch, and the Surfer like dogs ? Is that what you're saying ?
Again, Champion has [also] trounced many of the finest heralds out there with a few blows: Surfer, Drax, Gladiator, Beta Ray Bill, Warlock, etc-- they were beaten so badly that they nearly died as a result, and were forced to recuperate in a medical ward afterward. He also walked through Thanos' energy blasts, and broke his tech-shields(which is, to this very day, quite unprecedented.) In fact, Thanos himself stated that Champ purposefully stopped his melee just before delivering the "killing blow".

...Then tack on the fact that Champ [also] destroyed a planet, and yes... I think it's clear his gem feats were superior to Thor's as a whole.

Originally posted by Nihilist
as I've said from the start its a stalemate..
Good, then we agree. 👆

Originally posted by Endless Mike
Thanos had more trouble against Thor w/PG than he did against Champion with it.
Thanos opted to fight Thor physically. He did not, however, battle Champion with the same physicality-- he used [a lot] more shielding/teleportation... He sought to avoid a purely physical confrontation with Champ(and for good reason.) That much was stated by Thanos himself.

Originally posted by Damborgson
I think he did.

That blast doesn't look like it's hitting Thanos to me.

It's called artistic depiction.. He seems to have a thing for a blasts radiating all around the body. Even in the scan you show.. there is a big energy splash around odin when it hits him. In the Thanos case.. it was just from a different angle. Point is, I can't think of ONE.. NOT ONE incident where Thanos shields haven't been drawn or even alluded to... and where it talks about them breaking. All the times it has been broken or failing.. Omega, Galactus, Champion, Thor etc etc.. it's either shown being broken or talked about being broken. Yet in this case, it's never even mentioned as having one.. let one mentioned when it was broken. Yet if it wasn't broken. why didn't he continue to use it.. and if he did and it was broken.. why again wasn't it mentioned. I know why.. because no shield existed.

Looks like a shield to me.

Also, Galan make good points.

Shield never mentioned nor drawn.. a shield never mentioned to be broken.. a shield if not broken.. why wasn't it brought out later.. and then mentioned or mentioned when broken. None of those things happened. No shield drawn or mentioned means no shield. Pretty simple to me

No mention of a shield or an explicit drawing of one.

No shield.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Shield never mentioned nor drawn.. a shield never mentioned to be broken.. a shield if not broken.. why wasn't it brought out later.. and then mentioned or mentioned when broken. None of those things happened. No shield drawn or mentioned means no shield. Pretty simple to me

I'm seeing a circling around the front of Thanos body during that blast. It isn't hard to comprehend that he was using his shields.

That's not a circle anymore than it's simply splash that is reaching AROUND Thanos.

No shield.

Originally posted by Damborgson
I think he did.

That blast doesn't look like it's hitting Thanos to me.

The blast isnt even touching Thanos. It's clear as day that he was using his shields during this instance.

I can see both sides of the argument.

To me, it does look like the blast begins to dissipate before hitting Thanos-- on the other hand, there was no mention of a shield being in place.

During that instance, no one said a word...that was a moment for combat, not words.

Carver it's called artistic depiction. The particular artist like doing big splash damage where the blast hit.. this is just another example from another angle. NO SHIELD WAS MENTIONED.. NO SHIELD DRAWN.. NO SHIELD MENTIONED BEING BROKEN.. NO SHIELD BROUGHT OUT AGAIN if that was a shield. Sorry bud that makes no sense, and has never happened in Thanos' history. It's either drawn or mentioned. Always

Originally posted by carver9
The blast isnt even touching Thanos. It's clear as day that he was using his shields during this instance.

You see the light yellow in front of Thanos?

THAT is where the blast can be touching him. The sparks around can be the splash reaching around him.

His shields are always drawn and shown explicitly.

This is not one of those cases. No shield.

LOL...Are people really trying to argue for the idea that Thanos was using shields in that battle ?

Only a true idiot would say the blast isn't hitting Thanos. Its clear Thanos upper torso takes the brunt of the blast and the rest of the blast simply starts to filter around him.

If he's using a shield it must have been moulded to his body shape lol, I challenge anyone to shown Thanos using said shielding like that ever.

Originally posted by Galan007
Again, Champion has [also] trounced many of the finest heralds out there with a few blows: Surfer, Drax, Gladiator, Beta Ray Bill, Warlock, etc-- they were beaten so badly that they nearly died as a result, and were forced to recuperate in a medical ward afterward. He also walked through Thanos' energy blasts, and broke his tech-shields(which is, to this very day, quite unprecedented.) In fact, Thanos himself stated that Champ purposefully stopped his melee just before delivering the "killing blow".

...Then tack on the fact that Champ [also] destroyed a planet, and yes... I think it's clear his gem feats were superior to Thor's as a whole.

Good, then we agree. 👆

Thanos opted to fight Thor physically. He did not, however, battle Champion with the same physicality-- he used [a lot] more shielding/teleportation... He sought to avoid a purely physical confrontation with Champ(and for good reason.) That much was stated by Thanos himself.

I for one don't put much stock into collateral damage. Never have and never will. Thor was a threat to Thanos while Champion was someone he easily tricked and had hand over the gem. The guy was a colossal moron.

Originally posted by Galan007
I can see both sides of the argument.

To me, it does look like the blast begins to dissipate before hitting Thanos-- on the other hand, there was no mention of a shield being in place.


this^

The art is kinda ambiguous

Originally posted by quanchi112
I for one don't put much stock into collateral damage. Never have and never will. Thor was a threat to Thanos while Champion was someone he easily tricked and had hand over the gem. The guy was a colossal moron.

Not really true... Thanos seemed more concerned about Champion and his physicality than he was Thor...

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Not really true... Thanos seemed more concerned about Champion and his physicality than he was Thor...
No, Thanos took Thor on as a real threat. He toyed with Champion and then knew exactly when to teleport away. He played him for the fool he was and even stated all the elders were giant morons at the end. Thor was a force with the power gem Champion was just a fool.