Originally posted by red sabreThor was beating Thanos. And was only getting stronger as the battle kept going. Thor can't do that on his own.
OP never stated full control of the power gem, in that case its gladiator recieving the power gem and trying to do something with it = him getting stomped hard.having the power gem does not equel being undefeated instantly, thor had the power gem and it didnt help him much against thanos.
of course the power gem increase the power no doubt and its potential is even greater, my point was that automatically the power gem does not make you some undefeated monster you have to use it properly.
and the fight vs thanos was an example to the fact even with the power gem thor still got a fight from thanos and couldnt beat him properly, the potential of the power gem is much greater and thor should have been able to take his head off with a strike however its complicated to control the gem.
Originally posted by red sabreAnd not even using it properly allowed PG Thor to beat Thanos down, and not only be completely fresh, but even be stronger than before. It also allowed him to completely repel every attack the Infinity Watch and their allies threw at him and proceed to rape them.
of course the power gem increase the power no doubt and its potential is even greater, my point was that automatically the power gem does not make you some undefeated monster you have to use it properly.and the fight vs thanos was an example to the fact even with the power gem thor still got a fight from thanos and couldnt beat him properly, the potential of the power gem is much greater and thor should have been able to take his head off with a strike however its complicated to control the gem.
So I don't see what your point is, considering you're wrong that the PG didn't help Thor much, and you're wrong that you have to use the PG properly to make you a monster.
Originally posted by ODG
And not even using it properly allowed PG Thor to beat Thanos down, and not only be completely fresh, but even be stronger than before. It also allowed him to completely repel every attack the Infinity Watch and their allies threw at him and proceed to rape them.So I don't see what your point is, considering you're wrong that the PG didn't help Thor much, and you're wrong that you have to use the PG properly to make you a monster.
PG Thor did not beat thanos down, was besting thanos at some point? ok, but not beating him down at all, thats not a huge of achievement for a PG Wielder and thats thor after having the PG for a while and getting use to it for a while already, gladiator is overall weaken than thor, will be just recieving the PG and the gap between SMP and gladiator is bigger than the one between thanos and thor.
i was reffering to the PG not helping thor much relevantly, in relevance to the potential power the PG weilder can posses it was nothing to be honets, asi pointed out in order to use the PG you have to know how to use it properly and there are many levels to that its not only either you know or you dont.
Originally posted by red sabrePG Thor was beating Thanos down. Not only was Thor completely unhurt, but he was getting stronger. So acting like the PG didn't help Thor much is a mischaracterization, bordering on fabrication. There's no point in trying to salvage such a statement by appealing to non-existent feats or levels that could theoretically be achieved with the PG.
PG Thor did not beat thanos down, was besting thanos at some point? ok, but not beating him down at all, thats not a huge of achievement for a PG Wielder and thats thor after having the PG for a while and getting use to it for a while already, gladiator is overall weaken than thor, will be just recieving the PG and the gap between SMP and gladiator is bigger than the one between thanos and thor.i was reffering to the PG not helping thor much relevantly, in relevance to the potential power the PG weilder can posses it was nothing to be honets, asi pointed out in order to use the PG you have to know how to use it properly and there are many levels to that its not only either you know or you dont.
Originally posted by ODGThanos wasn't beaten down at all. Thanos ended it and was completely fine. Beating someone down doesn't mean they walk away and continue about their day like they weren't even in a fight.
PG Thor was beating Thanos down. Not only was Thor completely unhurt, but he was getting stronger. So acting like the PG didn't help Thor much is a mischaracterization, bordering on fabrication. There's no point in trying to salvage such a statement by appealing to non-existent feats or levels that could theoretically be achieved with the PG.
Originally posted by JakeTheBankFlat out lie. Gladiators confidence DOES increase his strength and other abilities. This is stated in the Official Marvel Data Base and stated by writers themselves, yet you bring YOUR false beliefs ( lies ) in nearly every thread that involves gladiator.
1. Prime shoves Kallark's head up his ass.
2. Safe bet is Prime.And Gladiator's confidence needs to stop being treated like some kind of amp. It's not. He's always at full confidence unless stated or shown otherwise.
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Gladiator possesses a number of superhuman capabilities as a result of his unique alien physiology including superhuman strength (capable of shattering a planet),[9] superhuman speed, stamina and durability (capable of withstanding an explosion equivalent to a supernova);[38] reflexes; heat vision (stated as "hotter than a star"😉;[39] frost breath[40] and is capable of warp speed flight (measured as "a hundred times the speed of light"😉.[38] Gladiator's abilities increase and decrease in accordance with his level of confidence[41] and he is vulnerable to a certain form of rare radiation.[42]
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Superhuman Strength: Gladiator possesses tremendous physical strength, the exact limits of which are unknown. He is one of the physically strongest beings to exist in the Universe as he has shattered planets with the mere force of his blows, and can collapse entire Stars with his level of strength. His strength level is dependent on his confidence; as such the more confident he is, the stronger he gets. He has demonstrated several astounding feats of strength such as defeating Colossus with relative ease, matching Hulk's strength in battle, overpowering Hyperion and knocking him unconscious by breaking his back, and even managing to hold his own for an extended period of time against Thor. Hence, Gladiator is ultimately able to lift somewhere far in excess of 100 tons
Pay very close attention to the parts that expose your lies. With the power gem, he would stomp prime.
Originally posted by -Pr-The OP stated that gladiators confidence is increasing more and more. How can he get set at peak if the limit of his strength is unknown? No one knows how strong he can get, but we know he gets stronger and stronger.
In any fight on the forum, unless stated otherwise, Gladiator's confidence is set at peak. To lessen that would be to nerf him. This was an actual mod ruling.He doesn't get some magical amp during the fight.
And stop calling people liars.
Originally posted by country1000
The OP stated that gladiators confidence is increasing more and more. How can he get set at peak if the limit of his strength is unknown? No one knows how strong he can get, but we know he gets stronger and stronger.
So you want to apply a no-limits fallacy both to his strength and something like confidence itself?
Originally posted by -Pr-The more confidence gladiator is, the stronger and more powerful he gets. Thats the powerset he was given and since we have not seen a limit to his strength and powers, thats what we have to go by. We cannot say that he can only get this strong if a limit has not been established. Confidence is belief in himself. His powers works both ways, if he doubts himself, he gets weaker, if he believes in himself, he gets stronger and stronger.
So you want to apply a no-limits fallacy both to his strength and something like confidence itself?
Originally posted by country1000
The more confidence gladiator is, the stronger and more powerful he gets. Thats the powerset he was given and since we have not seen a limit to his strength and powers, thats what we have to go by. We cannot say that he can only get this strong if a limit has not been established. Confidence is belief in himself. His powers works both ways, if he doubts himself, he gets weaker, if he believes in himself, he gets stronger and stronger.
So you think the ability to believe in one's self is limitless, then?
