Gladiator vs Superman Prime

Originally posted by ODG
Irony abounds. You need to understand, that after Sinestro Corps War, he's called Superman Prime, even when he doesn't have his Guardian amp. That's because he had a solo issue that labeled him "Superman Prime" and had his very character on-panel insisting on being called "Superman Prime." And he continues being called that before and after his Guardian amp. Obviously, you didn't read anything beyond Countdown to know this. But you can go ahead and ask the threadstarter or any mod as to whether this thread refers to Superman Prime or Guardian amped Superman Prime.

Good job speaking for the "entire internet" though and just blatantly ignoring the cover of the very comic issue you got your own friggin avy from. You still think this is from the Teen Titans fight??!?!?! Even after I told you it was from Infinite Crisis #6 and you went back and re-read it?!?!

--> entire double-page:

😂 I love how Alexander Luthor and his Anti-Monitor tower made a sudden guest appearance in Teen Titans!!! I love how you think I have to prove that this is blood being spit out by Superman Prime:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/SupermanPrime01.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/SupermanPrime02.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/SupermanPrime07.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/SupermanPrime04.jpg BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAA. Oh. My. God. Thor briefly staggers Phoenix Namor for a single panel... compared to Superboy combo pummeling Superman Prime, drawing blood and scarring his chest. And you think they're basically the same results?!?!? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA. You still can't admit that Superboy "hurt" Superman Prime worse than Thor "hurt" Phoenix Namor?! This is A-M-A-Z-I-N-G. I can't believe how reticent you are to even admit such a simple plain fact. I haven't even posted a single scan from the fight in Teen Titans! BWAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAA!!!!! laughcry ... excuse me while I laugh. I love how you had to insist on bringing your buthurt from the other thread here.

😂 😆 🤣 😆 😂

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Hate to reply from something that was taken off another thread, but I wouldn't want you to go spewing about more lies of concession or of you being "right" as the thread got closed before I could reply further.

You were gone 1 whole freakin week and expect people to still retain enough interest in an old thread to reply to a 3 page reply of nothing but flaming, strawmans and downright sad pathetic lies. :-/

I asked you to put together a summarized bullet point on your logic to avoid the flaming and to make our debate simpler for others to read. I did that as a courtesy. But if you wanna go ahead and debate SBP vs P5 further, I can go ahead and say "anytime, anywhere", my Liarman Prime.

And FFS, ODG's issue is this statement you made:

Either you're really wrong (because it DID help him much) or you worded it wrong....

at the end of the day i gfave reasons as to why prime wins this and you couldnt counter any of my points, nothing at all... but of course you are just going to be a hater and be sore with that but honestly who cares

Originally posted by -Pr-
Yeah, because your argument is so rock solid. ermm

did i say something wrong about the PG? i guess you agree with ODG that gladiator by touching it will eccess its higher levels within mere seconds and use it properly then?

Originally posted by Nibedicus
And FFS, ODG's main issue (prior to it being derailed, don't even wanna know who did what) is this statement you made:

Either you're really wrong (because it DID help him much) or you worded it wrong....

He's too far gone, dude. Sad thing is, I keep pointing out that he has some good logic to go on at times, but he can't seem to keep the topic in focus and I feel like he tends to resort to some pretty lowly stuff (flaming, lying, misrepresentation, derailing topics, strawmanning) just to get something to say (w/c usually doesn't even help his point).

W/c is sad cuz if he played nice and focused simply on the topics, the debates could possibly go his way instead of degenerating into 3 page flaming cesspools of wasted forum space.

Lol thats lame you are mad about our previous debate which you gave up on so now you look after me to bash? give me a break, as far as the PG not helping much i already explained my point, the point was in relevance to its overall potential and even with the fact thor had time with it and was getting used to it he still didnt access enough to even beat thanos properly, also i pointed out classic thor giving thanos toe 2 toe fights (of course losing eventually), but overall the PG could give him much much more, but thats the PG for you, it all depends on how well you can use it.

How is this thread still going on? Prime crushes Glads no matter how confident he is.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Does Red Sabre realize how badly ODG is owning him?

how is ODG owning me when i made him back out of his points? i basically gave reasons and points which he couldnt counter as to why prime wins this, i countered his PG argument which he backed down from because its redicilous to assume you can use it to high degree within seconds and without proper knowledge, then ODG was trying to make bullshit points such as being hurt = being down which again he backed down from, then he was trying to make a point about namor not being hurt by thor which again i proved to be wrong and showed his double standard, the only thing he is keeping up with right now is posting me scans of superboy punching prime and telling me there is blood there which is laughable, because the overall argument of this thread is longly proved to be on my side, but go ahead jump his train.

as for this thread to conclude it, at scene 1 SMP ragestomp gladiator.

scene 2 once again prime ragestomp gladiator who got no time at all to even understand the PG or even get used to it the fight will be over within mere seconds.

Really? Is that all you do? You were gone over one week and ppl tend to lose interest and head to other threads well before that point when I gave you the courtesy of replying to your 3 pages of horse feces logic IF you gave me the courtesy of condensing your argument into a more readable format with no flaming so we could get back on topic, you assume that I backed out even though I was never given a chance to reply further due to the thread being locked?

/facepalm

You reek of desperation or delusion or both.

Originally posted by red sabre
Lol thats lame you are mad about our previous debate which you gave up on so now you look after me to bash? give me a break, as far as the PG not helping much i already explained my point, the point was in relevance to its overall potential

What the hell does "overall potential" have to do with:

Originally posted by red sabre
thor had the power gem and it didnt help him much against thanos.

This is what you said. There was no indication of "overall potential" in your initial statement. And no one who isn't psychic would get "overall potential" from your statement AT ALL.

You can opt to try and correct it now, but be a man and admit that your statement was wrong and/or poorly worded.

To anyone who read the thread, it just looks like you're trying to salvage your poorly rushed statement by lying (something you've actually been proven to constantly do).

Originally posted by red sabre
and even with the fact thor had time with it and was getting used to it he still didnt access enough to even beat thanos properly,

Actually, IIRC, Pip ported Thor to Thanos' hideout right after he puts on the gem. I might be wrong here, but I'm sure someone with scans should be able to correct me.

Originally posted by red sabre
also i pointed out classic thor giving thanos toe 2 toe fights (of course losing eventually), but overall the PG could give him much much more, but thats the PG for you, it all depends on how well you can use it.

Pls provide scans of Thor going toe to toe with a non-Thanos clone. As far as I can remember, I've never seen Thor go toe-to-toe with Thanos anywhere NEAR as much as he was with the PG (where he was -albeit slowly- actually starting to win their fight).

You know what the funniest thing is? ODG is kicking your ass with actual scans OF YOUR FAVORITE CHARACTER W/C YOU APPEAR TO NOT KNOW TOO MUCH ABOUT. And then you go about saying:

Originally posted by red sabre
doesnt change the fact you got caught and spanked on all your bullshit.

😆

Originally posted by red sabre
how is ODG owning me when i made him back out of his points? i basically gave reasons and points which he couldnt counter as to why prime wins this, i countered his PG argument which he backed down from because its redicilous to assume you can use it to high degree within seconds and without proper knowledge, then ODG was trying to make bullshit points such as being hurt = being down which again he backed down from, then he was trying to make a point about namor not being hurt by thor which again i proved to be wrong and showed his double standard, the only thing he is keeping up with right now is posting me scans of superboy punching prime and telling me there is blood there which is laughable, because the overall argument of this thread is longly proved to be on my side, but go ahead jump his train.

Or that you claim to be a big SBP fan and yet don't know the context or issue numbers for any of the scans he provided.

Or that you're trying to lowball P5 Namor, despite the fact he no-sold a sucker hammer shot from Thor once he started utilizing the Phoenix power, while in the same sentence trying to justify (or perhaps ignoring would be more accurate) SBP/SMP being outright hurt/scarred/bloodied by Conner on several occasions.

The PG lowballing is humorous too but carry on 🙂

Originally posted by red sabre
at the end of the day i gfave reasons as to why prime wins this and you couldnt counter any of my points, nothing at all... but of course you are just going to be a hater and be sore with that but honestly who cares

Only in your mind. I downright quoted or numbered each of your arguments and made solid counterarguments that pretty much blew your logic out of the water many times. I even caught you in several blatant lies and quoted you on it.

Of course, you're gonna claim otherwise, that's just the kinda guy you are. I'm sure in that deluded mind of yours you're winning all your arguments.

You just claiming it over and over again doesn't make it true, however. Just sad.

Originally posted by red sabre
wow you are blantly lying, this fight IS the fight with teen titans Lol,you are basically bringing his fight with the teen titans where he got owned by them which is again one of the biggest PIS events, and then you claim its not? just phuckin wow man.

And we're to believe even a single sentence that you type when you 1) won't even admit where this scene comes from, 2) lie about it since you said you went back and re-read it, and 3) accuse me of lying about where this scene comes from. What a spectacular blaze of e-glory you've been. Go ahead and explain to us what Alexander Luthor is doing in Teen Titans though. This oughtta be good!

Originally posted by red sabre
aside of the fight with teen titans we see superboy prime spit something however no one knows if its blood or spit, it look like spit just as well as blood so no proof to that aside of the teen titans fight, as i said already different art same result, even if he did make prime bleed what does it mean?

^ We don't know if this is blood?!??!? 😆

Originally posted by red sabre
the result is the same, both prime and namor got hit, both felt it and were hurt to some degree, both are just fine in the next panel and pummel their opponent, as i said again different art same results same degree.

Might as well post the Teen Titans fight IMO

^ That fight goes for like a whole issue and a half. I'm not uploading those scans. 😐

Not because I don't want to definitively end this issue, no. I just don't want this trainwreck to end. It's fascinating.

Besides, he'll just accuse me of leaving out pages. 😂

well screw you then, I haven't seen them in a while.

To the Prime respect thread I go

Gladiator has more low end showings, not to mention a exploitable weakness.