Gladiator vs Superman Prime

Originally posted by red sabre
thats an indication,we see him kill off copy versions of them that were stated by the writer to portray how he will do against the real guys.

It's still not usable as evidence.

Originally posted by ODG
Did you really not know that the second time we see Superboy Prime he starts insisting that everybody call him Superman Prime, and everybody does? Honestly. Just trying to measure whether you've even bothered to read his stories.

Oh, yes, please bring that trainwreck into this thread here. I would so love to continue that conversation where you completely went e-spastic and quite literally went slobbering epileptic seizure over how blatant your hypocrisy when dealing with Superman Prime. That was phucking classic. Thor "hurt" Phoenix Namor with an all but meaningless blow but Superboy doesn't "hurt" SUperman Prime when he draws his blood and outright scars his chest. Haha. You're the gift that keeps on giving. Take your confusion and educate yourself. You can start by reading Tales of the Sinestro Corps: Superman Prime and pretty much every single appearance of Superman Prime thereafter where he's called Superman Prime.

Superman Prime in the meantime, didn't kill high heralds near instantly, much less dudes like Superboy (even with four separate chances). He's not killing Gladiator near instantly and especially not near instantly with an amp like the Power Gem. As much as you wish Gladiator wouldn't access the Power Gem like any user has who wasn't a functional retard like Drax. Of course I had them ready for use. Considering you acted like Superboy never toppled, staggered, hurt or scarred Superman Prime and I had to scan them for you here and prove otherwise: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=568028&pagenumber=11

What a hilarious thread. 😂

i will ask again, are you really suggesting this thread is about the averege version of superboy prime? if that was the case the thread started would state it as superboy prime, the fact he used superman prime clearly tell us he was trying to portray the guardian amped version as even in the introduction issue of prime with the guardian amp it is writen on the comics itself as superman prime, everybody reffer to guardian amped prime as superman prime, the thread started indeed was intending to portray guardian amped prime, and again trying to edit the thread to fir your pathetic argument only shows you are out of juice and at this point only troll.

again you are stating many words you read from the dictionary which present nothing aside of your pathetic attempt at attacking me personally, if thats your debating style then you are on a much lower level than o even thought you are in the past.

superboy didnt hurt superman prime, superboy hurt superboy prime, again you are lying show me where i said that superboy wasnt able to hurt prime? never did i state such a thing, i even admited superboy prime was hurt to some degree however not a significant one because right after he beats the crap out of superboy every single time and laughs, can you prove superboy was drawing blood from him? it looks like spit thats all, different art same results, and again you try and twist the versions of prime for the hundred time which is just stupid.

superman prime killed within 2 moves both wonder woman and martian manhunter copy versions from planet 15 that were stated by the writer to portray how easily he can kill the mainstream JLA members, he broke martian manhunters neck with 1 arm while smiling... if you believe gladiator can give that thing a fight allow me to sneeze on you please.

i will ask again, do you believe gladiator will fight superman prime who one shotted a planet, killed a copy version of the JLA with no effort, gave monarch beating until the amp started to fade away, took away universal blast without the amp long enough for gladiator to be able to access a high enough degree of the PG to overcome this kind of power gap difference? that makes no sense and contredicts the entire comics portrayel of those 2.

drax being smart or not is not relevant, if anything it only proves that the PG depends on the right ability to use and understand the PG, thor's intelect is better i assume and even after he got used to the gem and had it foir a decent time, he still had a fight from thanos and only with time of usage began to get stronger, do you believe gladiator will have so much time after recieving the gem while fighting superman prime? that only shows how much of a biased pr1ck you are

indeed superboy never hurt superman prime, he was able to hurt superboy prime, and where did i say again that he wasnt able to hurt him? what i did say was the damage wasnt significant and i pointed out superboy being owned every time at the end of the fight, ION and guys on higher level than superboy gave superboy prime some beating however it wasnt enough to bring him down and eventually he beat their ass.

Originally posted by red sabre
i will ask again, are you really suggesting this thread is about the averege version of superboy prime? if that was the case the thread started would state it as superboy prime, the fact he used superman prime clearly tell us he was trying to portray the guardian amped version as even in the introduction issue of prime with the guardian amp it is writen on the comics itself as superman prime, everybody reffer to guardian amped prime as superman prime, the thread started indeed was intending to portray guardian amped prime, and again trying to edit the thread to fir your pathetic argument only shows you are out of juice and at this point only troll.

Now look, stud. I assume you can read English. So read what that says. Nobody ever called him Superboy Prime after Sinestro Corps War. Not even when he lost the Guardian amp. Obviously, you haven't bothered reading anything like Legion of 3 Worlds, etc., but I'm a helpful guy who actually reads the appearances of the character he's discussing. You're welcome in advance.

Originally posted by red sabre
again you are stating many words you read from the dictionary which present nothing aside of your pathetic attempt at attacking me personally, if thats your debating style then you are on a much lower level than o even thought you are in the past.

superboy didnt hurt superman prime, superboy hurt superboy prime, again you are lying show me where i said that superboy wasnt able to hurt prime? never did i state such a thing, i even admited superboy prime was hurt to some degree however not a significant one because right after he beats the crap out of superboy every single time and laughs, can you prove superboy was drawing blood from him? it looks like spit thats all, different art same results, and again you try and twist the versions of prime for the hundred time which is just stupid.

You never even admitted that Superman Prime was "hurt" more by Superboy than Phoenix Namor was "hurt" by Thor. That was the whole point. You trolled everyone by laughing how Thor threw Mjolnir at Phoenix Namor and staggered him for... one panel. Then when you got no less than four scans of Superboy doing worse to Superman Prime, you went all e-drama queen and acted like the situations were somehow different. Well they were different. Superman Prime was bloodied, stunned to combos, and outright scarred. Which was worse than what Thor did to Phoenix Namor. You couldn't even bring yourself to admit that he was "hurt" more. Cry much? -Pr- already saved you from further indignity by closing that thread. Don't aggravate your bitterness over being called out on your hypocritical attitude. It's boring and obvious by now.

Although I always still get a kick over you exclaiming how studly and handsome you are. That NEVER gets old. laughcry

Originally posted by red sabre
superman prime killed within 2 moves both wonder woman and martian manhunter copy versions from planet 15 that were stated by the writer to portray how easily he can kill the mainstream JLA members, he broke martian manhunters neck with 1 arm while smiling... if you believe gladiator can give that thing a fight allow me to sneeze on you please.

i will ask again, do you believe gladiator will fight superman prime who one shotted a planet, killed a copy version of the JLA with no effort, gave monarch beating until the amp started to fade away, took away universal blast without the amp long enough for gladiator to be able to access a high enough degree of the PG to overcome this kind of power gap difference? that makes no sense and contredicts the entire comics portrayel of those 2.

drax being smart or not is not relevant, if anything it only proves that the PG depends on the right ability to use and understand the PG, thor's intelect is better i assume and even after he got used to the gem and had it foir a decent time, he still had a fight from thanos and only with time of usage began to get stronger, do you believe gladiator will have so much time after recieving the gem while fighting superman prime? that only shows how much of a biased pr1ck you are

Nobody cares. That's not the version even in this thread.

Nobody cares. I've already deconstructed your appeals to retard Drax and your lowball characterization that what PG Thor did to Thanos wasn't impressive.

Originally posted by ODG
Look here, stud. Nobody cares what you think happened. Superman Prime and everybody reading comics has called him Superman Prime ever since Sinestro Corps War. You should know this, considering your avy is taken from the cover of this comic:

Now look, stud. I assume you can read English. So read what that says. Nobody ever called him Superboy Prime after Sinestro Corps War. Not even when he lost the Guardian amp. Whoa whoa there stud. You were the one bringin up your butthurt from the other thread. Jeez.

You never even admitted that Superman Prime was "hurt" more by Superboy than Phoenix Namor was "hurt" by Thor. That was the whole point. You trolled everyone by laughing how Thor threw Mjolnir at Phoenix Namor and staggered him for... one panel. Then when you got no less than four scans of Superboy doing worse to Superman Prime, you went all e-drama queen and acted like the situations were somehow different. Well they were different. Superman Prime was bloodied, stunned to combos, and outright scarred. Which was worse than what Thor did to Phoenix Namor. You couldn't even bring yourself to admit that he was "hurt" more. Cry much? -Pr- already saved you from further indignity by closing that thread. Don't aggravate your bitterness over being called out on your hypocritical attitude. It's boring and obvious by now. Nobody cares. And that's even per forum rules.

Nobody cares. That's not the version even in this thread.

Nobody cares. I've already deconstructed your appeals to retard Drax and your lowball characterization that what PG Thor did to Thanos wasn't impressive.

i will ask you again, are you really trying to edit the versions in this thread to fir your pathetic argument? its well accepted thruought the entire internet to adress his guardian amped version as superman prime, while reffering his not guardian amped version to superboy prime, i really dont care much if he was called superman prime without the amp, fact of the matter is the thread starter reffered to the superman prime version AKA superman prime, its eccepted thruought years on top of years here on KMC to reffer this version that way, if the open starter wanted it to be the averege version of superboy prime he would reffer him that way, what relevance does it have anyway? only relevance it can have is you trying to twist the version into your own liking because other than that it makes no sense or difference in the first place.

how is superboy prime was more hurt than namor was in the scans you presented? both got hit went back and had a somewhat of pain expression on them, next panel they are ready to fight and eventually beat the opponent, how is prime being punched superboy = him being very hurt while phoenix force namor getting same treatment is just hurt? or hell judging by your own argument he isnt even hurt because as you stated earlier you believe someone to be hurt when they are down, so by your own words and logic superboy prime wasnt hurt either because he wasnt down.. you see how you got messed up in your own argument? thats what happens when you pull things out of your butt and try to argue against the truth when the only reason is a hatered agenda.

now i was laughing at phoenix force namor? i simply stated that now there 2 2 feats vs 1 to contredict the fact namor took a hit from mjolnir to the back of his neck thats all, dont worry i dont have any agenda against your new boyfriend.

superboy wasnt fighting superman prime he was fighting superboy prime, and how did he do any worse to prime than thor did to namor in the scans you posted? all the scans show us is superboy punching superboy prime and drawing spit or blood from his mouth we dont even know what that was, basically you presented superboy being able to effect and hurt to some degree superboy prime which i have no problem with, however if you try to present it as if superboy prime was significantly hurt thats laughable because during all the fights he beats the crap out of superboy and laughs, now how is his punching prime is any indication that prime was very hurt if the next panels show otherwise? and what does it have to do with the fact thor did hurt phoenix force namor?

i didnt see him bloodied all i saw is something spit like comming out of his mouth prove it was blood, superboy never comboe'd prime to the point it was presented as any instant of superiority, you grasp only on that teen titans showing which is a major PIS event as was proved time after time and basically contredicts all 99% of his other showins, great trolling.

phoenix force namor went back and was in almost a lying position from the impact and had his eyes closed from the impact pain, if thor was to continue with another hit he would land the hit, however for some reason thor was floating and staring at him like a moron instead of unleashing a nice serious on his butt.

Pr closed that thread because you got exposed for typing bullshit and you were trying to cover it up by insulting me personally, then when i followed with same thing it became nothing but a pathetic flaming and Pr closed it, too bad i was dragged into this however i dont consider myself to be better than anyone and if you want to get dirty thats fine i can also go personal with anyone.

i already stated so many flaws in your argument its not even funny, at the very least i get the versions right Lol.

we are discussing superman prime AKA guardian amped SBP and thats the version, you try and discuss averege superboy prime.

i already stated facts of how the PG works, you try and make dumb excuses and actually claim gladiator will get access to higher levels of the PG right away, or you are trying to tell me a fight between him and SMP will last long enough for him to access even higher levels than thor did which is absurd.

Originally posted by ODG

Although I always still get a kick over you exclaiming how studly and handsome you are. That NEVER gets old. laughcry

i stated it once but hey not my fault i regulary go to the gym and actually look nice, geez sorry for looking good.

@Red:

You always have me on your side and then you completely turn around and start grasping at BS and seem to forget you have credible arguments to go on. You can do better than this man.

Originally posted by red sabre
i will ask you again, are you really trying to edit the versions in this thread to fir your pathetic argument? its well accepted thruought the entire internet to adress his guardian amped version as superman prime, while reffering his not guardian amped version to superboy prime,

Originally posted by red sabre
how is superboy prime was more hurt than namor was in the scans you presented?

compared to

Originally posted by red sabre
i didnt see him bloodied all i saw is something spit like comming out of his mouth prove it was blood,

Originally posted by red sabre
Pr closed that thread because you got exposed for typing bullshit and you were trying to cover it up by insulting me personally, then when i followed with same thing it became nothing but a pathetic flaming and Pr closed it, too bad i was dragged into this however i dont consider myself to be better than anyone and if you want to get dirty thats fine i can also go personal with anyone.

Originally posted by red sabre
i stated it once but hey not my fault i regulary go to the gym and actually look nice, geez sorry for looking good.

Originally posted by red sabre
you get laid? getting laid by your boyfriend doesnt count and even if we add your male partners i am still getting more females than you get males

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seriously if you saw me in real life you would realise i am not your ordinary internet nerd and you would actually understand you are inferior to me in any way

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but its the truth, if you think a person that posts here is fat and smelly thats how you view people on the internet based on yourself, i am actually a stud that will make you shit your pants of shame, but screw that its the internet right? lets pretend you are james bond.

Glass loses both.

I have to prove that's blood?!?!??!?!

He means the last one when he's getting pounded by Superboy and Superman. Atleast i hope that's what he means. Either way it's pointless since SB drew blood from him already

Originally posted by ODG
BWAHAHAHAHA. I love how you speak for the "entire internet." BWAHAHAHAHA. Wow, stud. When you can't even read the cover of a comic book, that's pretty bad.

Because he was spewing mouthfuls of blood, was stunned enough to be comboed up, and was left with a huge scar on his chest. 😐 I love how you try to insist that Thor "hurt" Phoenix Namor here, but Superboy didn't "hurt" Superman Prime worse here:

compared to http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/SupermanPrime01.jpg <------ I have to prove that's blood?!?!??!?! crylaugh True it got closed for flaming. But the flaming was a result of your hilarity. Me finding your double-standards hilarious. And you hilariously getting angry at how easily it was exposed. You don't have to apologize for going on rants like this: I wholly encourage you to do it more often! Phucking winning the intarnetz!

you didnt answer me, are you really trying to suggest the thread starter was indeed reffering to averege superboy prime ?

the fact its writen superman prime on that cover got nothing to do with the fact you are trying to edit the original thread and switch versions to make it fit your own argument.

only time we see him draw blood from his mouth is the final panel in his fight with the teen titans which is a huge huge PIS event, aside of that all the other scans show him punch superboy prime once and draw something that could either be spit or blood we dont even know.

as i pointed out only time he combo prime is in the teen titans fight which is once again a huge PIS.

basically different arm same results, you see both superboy and thor hit their opponents causing them some degree of damage, but then get their asses kicked by the opponent, how is prime being hurt more badly than phoenix namor if the result is the same?

as i said before he hurt superboy prime not superman prime.

the flaming was a result of your lack of knowledge and poor choise of dealing with it.

angry? nah just having fun with your own double standard and exposing you for several points such as getting confuced between the versions and then try to present it as if the thread started was reffering to averege superboy prime.

claiming as soon as you touch the PG you outomatically get a fair access to the PG even with the fact the comics contredicts it.

stating in your mind being hurt = being down which already contredicts your statement of prime being hurt.

trying to portray prime being owned by superboy even with the fact he beat him up every time and just got punched by him , same damage was caused to him as with phoenix force namor, both went back from the impact and had their eyes closed from the effect, both were just fine next panel and kept fighting and beat the opponents.

only thjing you can grasp on is superboy prime fight with teen titans which is very sad because its a complete PIS and was laughed by anyone who read comics and knows 99% of his other showins.

i look good and got a healthy confidance sue me Lol.

Originally posted by red sabre
you didnt answer me, are you really trying to suggest the thread starter was indeed reffering to averege superboy prime ?

the fact its writen superman prime on that cover got nothing to do with the fact you are trying to edit the original thread and switch versions to make it fit your own argument.

Good job speaking for the "entire internet" though and just blatantly ignoring the cover of the very comic issue you got your own friggin avy from.

Originally posted by red sabre
only time we see him draw blood from his mouth is the final panel in his fight with the teen titans which is a huge huge PIS event, aside of that all the other scans show him punch superboy prime once and draw something that could either be spit or blood we dont even know.

as i pointed out only time he combo prime is in the teen titans fight which is once again a huge PIS.

--> entire double-page:

😂 I love how Alexander Luthor and his Anti-Monitor tower made a sudden guest appearance in Teen Titans!!! I love how you think I have to prove that this is blood being spit out by Superman Prime:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/SupermanPrime01.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/SupermanPrime02.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/SupermanPrime07.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/SupermanPrime04.jpg

Originally posted by red sabre
basically different arm same results, you see both superboy and thor hit their opponents causing them some degree of damage, but then get their asses kicked by the opponent, how is prime being hurt more badly than phoenix namor if the result is the same?

Originally posted by red sabre
only thjing you can grasp on is superboy prime fight with teen titans which is very sad because its a complete PIS and was laughed by anyone who read comics and knows 99% of his other showins.

Originally posted by red sabre
i look good and got a healthy confidance sue me Lol.

😂 😆 🤣 😆 😂

how is superboy prime being called superman prime after the amp faded away have anything to do with the fact you are trying to edit the thread? it is well accepted that on all comic book forums the tearm superman prime is used to either describe the golden one or guardian amped superboy prime,if the thread starter was intending to adress regular superboy prime he would simply state it as prime, the fact he is using the commonly used tearm superman prime means he is reffering to a different version which is the guardian amped one.

its a well known fact he is adressed that way on the internet, golden prime 1 million is called that way even with the fact they dont call him that even in the comics, as i said before if the thread starter wanted it to be superboy prime he would reffer to him as superboy prime.

wow you are blantly lying, this fight IS the fight with teen titans Lol,you are basically bringing his fight with the teen titans where he got owned by them which is again one of the biggest PIS events, and then you claim its not? just phuckin wow man.

aside of the fight with teen titans we see superboy prime spit something however no one knows if its blood or spit, it look like spit just as well as blood so no proof to that aside of the teen titans fight, as i said already different art same result, even if he did make prime bleed what does it mean? the result is the same, both prime and namor got hit, both felt it and were hurt to some degree, both are just fine in the next panel and pummel their opponent, as i said again different art same results same degree.

yes you did post a scan from the fight with teen titans and its the scan where superboy is able to inflict a combo on him, you basically use the biggest PIS event of prime when he got beat by teen titans as evidence and when i catch you on that you just claim its not that fight? this is beyond pathetic thats a straight up in your face trolling.

as i explained both prime and namor get hit, feel it, hurt slightly, next pannel fine, beat the other guy, its that simple.

here i can do it as well see? 😆 💃 🤣 🙄

doesnt change the fact you got caught and spanked on all your bullshit.

You two are precious.

i love the fact ODG dropped his argument about the PG to save face and suddenly all his argument focus on posting scans where SBP is bleeding 😆 😆

Originally posted by red sabre
so basically you admit i am right and run away, ok owned.

Hate to reply from something that was taken off another thread, but I wouldn't want you to go spewing about more lies of concession or of you being "right" as the thread got closed before I could reply further.

You were gone 1 whole freakin week and expect people to still retain enough interest in an old thread to reply to a 3 page reply of nothing but flaming, strawmans and downright sad pathetic lies. :-/

I asked you to put together a summarized bullet point on your logic to avoid the flaming and to make our debate simpler for others to read. I did that as a courtesy. But if you wanna go ahead and debate SBP vs P5 further, I can go ahead and say "anytime, anywhere", my Liarman Prime.

And FFS, ODG's issue is this statement you made:

Originally posted by red sabre
thor had the power gem and it didnt help him much against thanos.

Either you're really wrong (because it DID help him much) or you worded it wrong....

Sorry ppl just to clarify to avoid further confusions in this thread Iam referring to superman prime with the guardian amp not SBP ...

Originally posted by red sabre
i love the fact ODG dropped his argument about the PG to save face and suddenly all his argument focus on posting scans where SBP is bleeding 😆 😆

Yeah, because your argument is so rock solid. ermm

And FFS, ODG's main issue (prior to it being derailed, don't even wanna know who did what) is this statement you made:

Originally posted by red sabre
thor had the power gem and it didnt help him much against thanos.

Either you're really wrong (because it DID help him much) or you worded it wrong....

Originally posted by juggerman
@Red:

You always have me on your side and then you completely turn around and start grasping at BS and seem to forget you have credible arguments to go on. You can do better than this man.

He's too far gone, dude. Sad thing is, I keep pointing out that he has some good logic to go on at times, but he can't seem to keep the topic in focus and I feel like he tends to resort to some pretty lowly stuff (flaming, lying, misrepresentation, derailing topics, strawmanning) just to get something to say (w/c usually doesn't even help his point).

W/c is sad cuz if he played nice and focused simply on the topics, the debates could possibly go his way instead of degenerating into 3 page flaming cesspools of wasted forum space.

Does Red Sabre realize how badly ODG is owning him?