Gaara>crocodile

Originally posted by AuraAngel
He is. You are wrong. He has shown himself to be faster while in his sand form. His normal form is roughly as fast as Gaara's auto defense(which is faster than Gaara can react himself) and his Sand form is faster than that. Read the manga before you start spouting shit to someone who has.

Minato, Hiruzen, and several others have gone through such moments where they are fighting someone who caused the death of a love one. In Hiruzen's case, it was all the people Orochimaru killed and in Minato's case, it was Kushina's death(which admittedly hadn't happened yet but was going to happen). Both of them acted smarter than A. Hell, Sasuke is cock in his hand insane and acts smarter than A.

No, this is stupid rationalizing on your part. Killing Naruto isn't necessary. A just decides to do it because Naruto really pisses him off(on top of the more understandable causing a problem by trying to run). This is stupid.

A is the best option they have yes. They also have poor options. Addressed this.

...It doesn't take a genius to figure out "Faster than light tech=useful" dude. It doesn't even take a particularly smart person.

He got them together to ***** at them. How smart. Mifune was the one who actually got them to get along.

1. You're arguing under the wrong impression that Crocodile is slower than Gaara.

2. Well dumbass, how about reading more than 2 chapters?

3. He is faster than Gaara's sand and faster than Gaara's thought process. You've yet to disprove this.

4. He is faster than the sand and he doesn't need to break through it. He merely needs to touch him. And no, Gaara won't because Crocodile thinks faster than Gaara. And no, a shield of sand is not going to keep out a guy made of sand who can manipulate And no, Sand Clones won't work because he is faster than them and is going to know if he uses them for substitution.

This is boring. You're boring me. Done now.

Your argument is based on the idea that gaara's sand is at it's limits when it comes to the bullets. That was part 1 gaara part 2 gaara must be way better. Fact is gaara does not even have to react himself either.

"All the people orochimaru killed" lol hiruzen loved orochimaru as a son and still was having trouble with killing him emotionally that is why he did not act like A nor was he in the state to be able to be as risky as A. Not even gonna comment on minato as that was a different situation.

1. Actually im not gaara's sand just can react to him quite easily plus his feats are worth nothing.

2.Well dumbass how about getting your facts straight and knowing a single crocodile vs luffy fight lasted more than two chapters loser.

3. And you have yet to prove crocodile is faster as you just state he is. Gaara's defense/mom will do all the protecting for him.

4. What a idiotic argument. What proof do you have that he is faster than gaara's sand? Which If I have to note has speed feats and alot of abilities. Gaara's sand manipulation>Crocodile's sand manipulation FACT. Can you show me a scan of crocodile fusing with other sand? Not that it matters as if he goes into gaara's sand then he will be exposing himself to chakra rich sand which will give gaara the ability to control him.

Sucks to be you as at the end of the day crocodile will be finished in a flash gaara takes control of him and seals him he turns inot a human he just gets himself killed faster. that plus his lackluster speedfeats.

Oh your bored now that's great code for giving up *****. Oh by the way I love how you said how you do not care who wins yet your still trying so hard to prove a pointless scenario.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I don't have to prove a thing.

You do.

Prove they are as fast as bullets little boy.

A football rotates in the air like a bullet, it isn't as fast as one.

And yes, you are considered the idiot.

LOL you love proving ow dumb you are! There are reasons that I listed as to why kimmimaro's bone bullets and regular bullets should be the same speed. A football would not fit those standards. Of course you being a idiot would not understand. LOL you still call me an idiot after I proved you wrong. Pathetic🙂

No, you didn't prove your claim, because you can't.

Seriously, stop posting.

Lol at the Kimmimaro bullet thing.

...Question.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Gaara's sand manipulation>Crocodile's sand manipulation FACT.

Do you know what a fact is?

Oh hey, look what I found.

http://www.mangapanda.com/103-44810-8/one-piece/chapter-570.html

Suddenly what was at least arguable is now not. If Crocodile can react to and block an attack from Mihawk(physically), he isn't losing. Rikudo, if you didn't know, Mihawk could destroy all of Sunagakure by himself.

The page before has a nice feat for Dos Bones too. So good that it's kind of inconsistent.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Oh hey, look what I found.

http://www.mangapanda.com/103-44810-8/one-piece/chapter-570.html

Suddenly what was at least arguable is now not. If Crocodile can react to and block an attack from Mihawk(physically), he isn't losing. Rikudo, if you didn't know, Mihawk could destroy all of Sunagakure by himself.

The page before has a nice feat for Dos Bones too. So good that it's kind of inconsistent.

You think that is a nice feat? He saw mihawk attacking luffy so he ran in and blocked his attack. Mihawk was not putting a lot of power into that attack just like his strike at daz bones it was not even close to the slashes he did to beat don kreig's fleat or attack whitebeard. Sakura was able to intercept sasori's attacks does that mean that sakura is as fast as sasori? Or that she has good reaction cuz she does not. Are u done now cuz you have clearly run out of ideas.

Originally posted by NemeBro
No, you didn't prove your claim, because you can't.

Seriously, stop posting.

Someone is in denial you seriously suck at debating just go.

Originally posted by Bentley
Lol at the Kimmimaro bullet thing.

Go away I pointed out the similarities!

Originally posted by XanatosForever
...Question.

Do you know what a fact is?

Let me rephrase then gaara is very likely better than crocodile in sand control based on feats.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
You think that is a nice feat? He saw mihawk attacking luffy so he ran in and blocked his attack. Mihawk was not putting a lot of power into that attack just like his strike at daz bones it was not even close to the slashes he did to beat don kreig's fleat or attack whitebeard. Sakura was able to intercept sasori's attacks does that mean that sakura is as fast as sasori? Or that she has good reaction cuz she does not. Are u done now cuz you have clearly run out of ideas.

Well no, it is a nice feat. Mihawk is fast enough to make Luffy in Gear 2 look pathetic and is able to cut a mountain sized glacier in half. And you really have no proof as to the power in that attack. And yeah, if Sakura is able to intercept his attack then that means Sakura is fast. And she does have good reactions. Though Sasori isn't exactly notable for his speed to begin with.

And really, you have no argument that his slash was weak. Mihawk had been using very power slashes throughout the fight(the aforementioned mountain cutting one was aimed at Luffy, who barely dodged with Gear 2). There is nothing to suggest that this attack was weaker. It didn't have the blade beam but I'm pretty sure it would have had it not been stopped.

But hey, we know OUR opinions on the feat. We'll just wait to hear from other.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin

Go away I pointed out the similarities!

Similarities aren't enough. The bone shards spinning in flight is nowhere near good enough to prove they're as fast as actual bullets, nor is pointing out that they are propelled by muscle, as muscle contraction doesn't compare to bullet speed (unless said muscle is proven to be faster, but I digress.)

What is the actual evidence that bone bullets are even that fast? I suggest you look for speed feat for them, first.

You think that is a nice feat? He saw mihawk attacking luffy so he ran in and blocked his attack.

Mihawk is fast enough to hit a Gear 2 Luffy.

Crocodile being able to "run in" is really darn fast.

Scenario, I didn't know you read One Piece. Why you no talk in thread about it?

I don't have much to say, honestly.

I'm just gonna add in my two cents and say it took a G2 Luffy to intercept Croc in the war, just for another speedfeat

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Someone is in denial you seriously suck at debating just go.

Go away I pointed out the similarities!

Go away.

Saying things like "You suck at debating gtfo" isn't really an argument. It's just an insult. Stop it gais. Can't we all get along? D:

No.

Shut your ****ing face.

Originally posted by NemeBro
No.

Shut your ****ing face.

*puts on Tobi mask*

Only way I know how to shut my face.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Well no, it is a nice feat. Mihawk is fast enough to make Luffy in Gear 2 look pathetic and is able to cut a mountain sized glacier in half. And you really have no proof as to the power in that attack. And yeah, if Sakura is able to intercept his attack then that means Sakura is fast. And she does have good reactions. Though Sasori isn't exactly notable for his speed to begin with.

And really, you have no argument that his slash was weak. Mihawk had been using very power slashes throughout the fight(the aforementioned mountain cutting one was aimed at Luffy, who barely dodged with Gear 2). There is nothing to suggest that this attack was weaker. It didn't have the blade beam but I'm pretty sure it would have had it not been stopped.

But hey, we know OUR opinions on the feat. We'll just wait to hear from other.

The slash daz bones took was not nearly as big as the ones he used to attack whitebeard. It would not have gotten any bigger over time. And sakura has shit speed she was almost killed by a ZETSU CLONE that is sad. Im not even gonna point out her other showings of horrible combat ability and speed. Sasori also has better speed than her in the databooks so saying just cause she intercepted his attack does not mean she has good speed. So crocodile intercepting soemone he was watching and knows who he will attack is nothing. There is no way crocodile is in the same league as mihawk. You can leave now cuz you clearly are at the end of your tirade.

Originally posted by The Scenario
Similarities aren't enough. The bone shards spinning in flight is nowhere near good enough to prove they're as fast as actual bullets, nor is pointing out that they are propelled by muscle, as muscle contraction doesn't compare to bullet speed (unless said muscle is proven to be faster, but I digress.)

What is the actual evidence that bone bullets are even that fast? I suggest you look for speed feat for them, first.

Mihawk is fast enough to hit a Gear 2 Luffy.

Crocodile being able to "run in" is really darn fast.

It does not only use muscle and what is to say it cannot propel the bone bullets like a gun if not faster?

And crocodile being able to intercept someone who he is watching and he knows who his target is means nothing. People have intercepted others way faster than them in the manga before it does not mean they are faster or have good reaction feats.

Originally posted by Samurai100
I'm just gonna add in my two cents and say it took a G2 Luffy to intercept Croc in the war, just for another speedfeat

Your implying with the word "took" that crocodile is so fast that no one could have stopped him when actually ivankov did not try and whitebeard did not either as they left if to luffy. Even a bunch of fodder noticed his attack surely gaara's defense could.

Originally posted by NemeBro
You didn't prove anything.

Go away.

If I did not prove anything how come you have no counter arguments? And you continue to prove how dumb you are cuz I do not have to leave as not only am I actually contributing to the debate but It is MY THREAD.

Originally posted by AuraAngel
Saying things like "You suck at debating gtfo" isn't really an argument. It's just an insult. Stop it gais. Can't we all get along? D:

Coming from the guy who started the insults don't dish it if you can't take it.

Wrong, I am assuming direct control of this thread.

This hurts you.

Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
The slash daz bones took was not nearly as big as the ones he used to attack whitebeard. It would not have gotten any bigger over time. And sakura has shit speed she was almost killed by a ZETSU CLONE that is sad. Im not even gonna point out her other showings of horrible combat ability and speed. Sasori also has better speed than her in the databooks so saying just cause she intercepted his attack does not mean she has good speed. So crocodile intercepting soemone he was watching and knows who he will attack is nothing. There is no way crocodile is in the same league as mihawk. You can leave now cuz you clearly are at the end of your tirade.

Coming from the guy who started the insults don't dish it if you can't take it.

Perhaps not as big as the one directed at Whitebeard(that was explicitly stated to be his strongest) but it was still a blade beam version. And clearly she doesn't if she can intercept Sasori while injured. And no, she wasn't. Naruto "saved" her but she has feats to suggest that she'd manage. And yeah, Crocodile is in the same league as Mihawk. You know, that whole Shichibukai thing. Hell, since the latter doesn't seem to have Haki, it wouldn't be too big a stretch to assume Crocodile would beat him.

I implied you were sucking Gaara's penis because you seem heavily biased in favor of him. You could have replied by asking something like "How's the secks with Crocodile?" or something. To which I would reply something like, the smoke is annoying and half the time it feels like I'm going through him. Hyuck.

So NemeBro is in charge of the thread now huh? I fear for my penis.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Wrong, I am assuming direct control of this thread.

This hurts you.

Yeah it hurts me to think that you are delusional enough to think you could loser.