Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Too bad that is not part of the WRITTEN POST which is actually what is considered a post. Which is also what is quoted when you click QUOTE.
Oh hey, standard reply. Didn't see you there(I'm lying, I knew exactly what you would say).
I'm sorry you can't seem to think outside the box. But it is in every post you've ever made. And it was at one point written otherwise it couldn't be there. Which means you must have found it so hilarious that you made sure that it was read again with every post.
In any event, a deal is a deal. Topic is dropped.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
Oh hey, standard reply. Didn't see you there(I'm lying, I knew exactly what you would say).I'm sorry you can't seem to think outside the box. But it is in every post you've ever made. And it was at one point written otherwise it couldn't be there.
In any event, a deal is a deal. Topic is dropped.
Sorry a post is considered the written part my avatar and information placed BESIDE AND OUTSIDE IT.
And I never agreed to the deal and that "deal" you made is the only way for you to get out of the fact that you are losing this debate and all the people who are reading this thread will know that. So no matter what you say I won the real prize and you will be kicking yourself in the dust in Nemebro's "party" which he leave when he realized how little attention he was getting.
I said outside the box thinking. You're thinking of the statement(which is in the longer box). The smaller box to the left is also part of the post(which means display, which your info does) but is often ignored.
You said "ok" when I offered the deal. That is agreeing to the deal. And not really, I can continue the "debate" but I see no reason to. If you couldn't see through such an obvious trick, then you wouldn't make for any good entertainment.
Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
I actually did not insult you as that would imply my comment was made to be rude or hurtful. Quit simply meant that what Nemebro said was not funny and you must have a bad sense of humor to have laughed at something that is weak comically. It is no way rude. i don't want to sound like a ******* but im not apologizing.
Whether you yourself meant harm by it does not the change the fact you expressed an opinion that my sense of humor is "bad" when you do not know me at all, and thus really have no basis to say such a thing. I have taken offense by it because I had not, and have not, directed any sort of negative opinion to you or your personality. Put simply, to express a negative opinion of a person without provocation is rude, whether you see it as such or not. I ask again that you apologize.
Originally posted by Rikudo senninI just posted.
Sorry a post is considered the written part my avatar and information placed BESIDE AND OUTSIDE IT.
And I never agreed to the deal and that "deal" you made is the only way for you to get out of the fact that you are losing this debate and all the people who are reading this thread will know that. So no matter what you say I won the real prize and you will be kicking yourself in the dust in Nemebro's "party" which he leave when he realized how little attention he was getting.
Stop trolling my thread boyo.
It does not only use muscle and what is to say it cannot propel the bone bullets like a gun if not faster?
No, that's not how debating works. There are actually rules for this sort of thing. What you're asking here is for me to prove a negative, i.e: "Prove the bones are not as fast as bullets." That's not actually possible, since evidence tends to work on positives, i.e: "Prove the bones are as fast as bullets."
Protip: If your claim includes a negative modifier such as "not" or "no," then it is a negative claim and cannot be proven.
Now, then. Since it your claim that bone bullets are as fast as real bullets (a positive claim) it puts the Burden of Proof on you. So you are the one that needs to prove the bones are that fast; no one else has to disprove it. So far, you have not satisfactorily proven your claim. Simply saying "muscles and chakra" does not mean anything. You need to either prove that Kimmimaro's chakra can propel something at bullet speed, or that the bone bullets are at that speed. Either one.
Or you can find a better speed for Gaara, because frankly bullet speed is basically worthless against non fodder One Piece characters.
And crocodile being able to intercept someone who he is watching and he knows who his target is means nothing. People have intercepted others way faster than them in the manga before it does not mean they are faster or have good reaction feats.
Luffy was in Gear Second almost the whole time, and he was flailing against Mihawk. Mihawk has deflected and cut bullets and cannonballs in half. Crocodile blocking an attack from him that Luffy couldn't dodge is a good feat, and I'm not sure why you'd think otherwise. Interception attacks are usually good indicator's of speed.
Originally posted by AuraAngel
I said outside the box thinking. You're thinking of the statement(which is in the longer box). The smaller box to the left is also part of the post(which means display, which your info does) but is often ignored.
You said "ok" when I offered the deal. That is agreeing to the deal. And not really, I can continue the "debate" but I see no reason to. If you couldn't see through such an obvious trick, then you wouldn't make for any good entertainment.
Yeah that is why when you quote a post you only get the written part. P post is a written statement or response or picture response. Info on the person writting it is added beside the post so it does not count sorry. And my ok was my confirming I read the post I never said "I agree". And I should not have to debate with someone who put their faith in a "promise" over the internet. That is sad. And you should not debate at all cuz I have already proven your little tirade's wrong.
Originally posted by NemeBro
I just posted.Stop trolling my thread boyo.
Sorry who's name is beside thread starter? Your comments are perfect for expanding my thread so please continue. 🙂
Originally posted by The Scenario
No, that's not how debating works. There are actually rules for this sort of thing. What you're asking here is for me to prove a negative, i.e: "Prove the bones are not as fast as bullets." That's not actually possible, since evidence tends to work on positives, i.e: "Prove the bones are as fast as bullets."Protip: If your claim includes a negative modifier such as "not" or "no," then it is a negative claim and cannot be proven.
Now, then. Since it your claim that bone bullets are as fast as real bullets (a positive claim) it puts the Burden of Proof on you. So you are the one that needs to prove the bones are that fast; no one else has to disprove it. So far, you have not satisfactorily proven your claim. Simply saying "muscles and chakra" does not mean anything. You need to either prove that Kimmimaro's chakra can propel something at bullet speed, or that the bone bullets are at that speed. Either one.
Or you can find a better speed for Gaara, because frankly bullet speed is basically worthless against non fodder One Piece characters.
Luffy was in Gear Second almost the whole time, and he was flailing against Mihawk. Mihawk has deflected and cut bullets and cannonballs in half. Crocodile blocking an attack from him that Luffy couldn't dodge is a good feat, and I'm not sure why you'd think otherwise. Interception attacks are usually good indicator's of speed.
Okay it is not only the same shape and size but utilizes a similar function to propel itself at high velocity like a bullet.
yet fodder were able to see crocodile's attack on whitebeard?
Originally posted by XanatosForever
Whether you yourself meant harm by it does not the change the fact you expressed an opinion that my sense of humor is "bad" when you do not know me at all, and thus really have no basis to say such a thing. I have taken offense by it because I had not, and have not, directed any sort of negative opinion to you or your personality. Put simply, to express a negative opinion of a person without provocation is rude, whether you see it as such or not. I ask again that you apologize.
Fine if you were so hurt im sorry!
Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Okay it is not only the same shape and size but utilizes a similar function to propel itself at high velocity like a bullet.
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That does not prove it is as fast as a bullet. Further, the mechanisms used are completely different. Bullets are fired by the explosion of gunpowder pushing it out of the barrel. Kimmimaro fires bullets how? Best I can figure, it's muscle contractions and chakra expulsion, which is more of a squeezing, pushing mechanism than an explosive one. Unless, of course, his chakra explodes or something. Still, that is not actual evidence.
Like a bullet =/= as fast as a bullet. Paintballs are like bullets and are fired in a "similar" way, but those can be caught and compressed air is actually a bit closer to the mechanism Kimmimaro appears to use.
yet fodder were able to see crocodile's attack on whitebeard?
It's called the "War of the Best" for a reason. Fodder is the guys that Luffy's little Conqueror Haki take out, yet I notice nearly all of Marineford stayed standing after it. In fact, I believe there was a quote of Luffy's saying that the nameless Marines there were way stronger than normal. I'll see if I can dig it up. In any case, Marineford fodder is not exactly the same as cannon fodder.
I might need to review the attack you're talking about, too, so we'll see in a minute. Either way, it doesn't mean Crocodile is slow by any means.
Edit: Okay found them.
First, Crocodile's attack: http://i6.mangapanda.com/one-piece/557/one-piece-784032.jpg
Crocodile gets to Whitebeard without anyone noticing, and then pauses to taunt him. It don't see how that's particularly bad, speedwise.
Luffy's quote: http://i29.mangapanda.com/one-piece/558/one-piece-816176.jpg
That's Luffy, taking at least one hit from a "fodder" Marine, and then saying "Everyone is so strong."
Originally posted by The Scenario
That does not prove it is as fast as a bullet. Further, the mechanisms used are completely different. Bullets are fired by the explosion of gunpowder pushing it out of the barrel. Kimmimaro fires bullets how? Best I can figure, it's muscle contractions and chakra expulsion, which is more of a squeezing, pushing mechanism than an explosive one. Unless, of course, his chakra explodes or something. Still, that is not actual evidence.Like a bullet =/= as fast as a bullet. Paintballs are like bullets and are fired in a "similar" way, but those can be caught and compressed air is actually a bit closer to the mechanism Kimmimaro appears to use.
It's called the "War of the Best" for a reason. Fodder is the guys that Luffy's little Conqueror Haki take out, yet I notice nearly all of Marineford stayed standing after it. In fact, I believe there was a quote of Luffy's saying that the nameless Marines there were way stronger than normal. I'll see if I can dig it up. In any case, Marineford fodder is not exactly the same as cannon fodder.
I might need to review the attack you're talking about, too, so we'll see in a minute. Either way, it doesn't mean Crocodile is slow by any means.
Edit: Okay found them.
First, Crocodile's attack: http://i6.mangapanda.com/one-piece/557/one-piece-784032.jpg
Crocodile gets to Whitebeard without anyone noticing, and then pauses to taunt him. It don't see how that's particularly bad, speedwise.
Luffy's quote: http://i29.mangapanda.com/one-piece/558/one-piece-816176.jpg
That's Luffy, taking at least one hit from a "fodder" Marine, and then saying "Everyone is so strong."
The explosion in a gun is the pushing force chakra does not have to explode to launch something. And paintballs are not a good comparison as those are manufactured to not be extremely fast or harmful when kimmi's attack is.
I do not see crocodile stopping at all actually and the lines around his movements make it might imply he is moving still. I have a question why would would crocodile even dare stop and taunt whitebeard if he knows how strong whitebeard is? Does he not know that stopping for even a second will cost him his chance? And he did not even taunt whitebeard as he only said it has been a while that is not taunting.
And marine fodder are not anymore special than normal fodder. Those were either higher ranked officers or moriahs zombies as normal fodder marine do not carry the weapons of the guys that attacked whitebeard. And we do not even know the range of luffy's haki pre timeskip plus the fact that it was not that strong anyway before the timeskip.
Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
The explosion in a gun is the pushing force chakra does not have to explode to launch something. And paintballs are not a good comparison as those are manufactured to not be extremely fast or harmful when kimmi's attack is.
Yeah, but you still haven't proven that the attack is as fast as you claim it to be. You need actual speed feats to do that, not just a "similarity."
I do not see crocodile stopping at all actually and the lines around his movements make it might imply he is moving still. I have a question why would whould crocodile even dare stop and taunt whitebeard if he knows how strong whitebeard is? Does he not know that stopping for even a second will cost him his chance? And he did not even taunt whitebeard as he only said it has been a while that is not taunting.
Crocodile suddenly appears behind Whitebeard and then hangs there for 3 panels before attacking. Looks like a pause to me, especially since he's talking. I never said it wouldn't cost him his chance, and it did, just that he he did appear to pause.
Also, he sort of blitzed Akainu
Then, because I believe it was relevant earlier, Crocodile explains that he can turn rocks into sand when Vivi's father plans to bury him in rubble. Plus, his poison/acid thing also dissolves rock. Just saying.
Edit: Shouldn't this thread be in the vs. forum?
Originally posted by Rikudo sennin
Yeah that is why when you quote a post you only get the written part. P post is a written statement or response or picture response. Info on the person writting it is added beside the post so it does not count sorry. And my ok was my confirming I read the post I never said "I agree". And I should not have to debate with someone who put their faith in a "promise" over the internet. That is sad. And you should not debate at all cuz I have already proven your little tirade's wrong.
Post: Make (information) available on the Internet
The reason the quote function doesn't quote everything is because it is not needed. However, the information is still available with every reply and statement you've made. The immature "your mom" joke is literally always there with you. You consider it as important enough to include everywhere.
And you said "ok" because you thought I couldn't prove it. Or maybe you did know where I was headed but I doubt it, considering you gave no indication that you did. And no, I didn't put faith in your promise. I've known from the beginning what every step of this conversation would be. The next reply towards me will consist of arguing over the definition of the word post, desperately trying in vein to make sure that everyone knows that I'm wrong about the "your mom" joke thing, for the sole reason of trying to come off as more intelligent/mature than you are(the former no one believes and the latter is proven wrong with each post). You'll wrap up the post by saying how I suck at debating and how everything I do is some kind of desperate tirade(not that I think you know what it means, since it doesn't really apply to anyone's post in this thread except yours).
Of course, once I post this you'll probably try not to do the things listed above(aside from insulting my debating skills) in order to prove me wrong but ultimately I don't think you'll succeed in that endeavor. Or maybe you will say those things because I predicted that you would try not to? Who knows.
