Thor, Orion vs Silver Surfer, Captain Marvel.

Billy utilizing his magical powers to their fullest and current versions of all others. Blood lusted battle in abandoned area, who wins?

Team one, 6-7/10.

Team 2 wins

Actually they are pretty close in power but Orion and Thor are Warriors. SS had always his problems with Thor, so I would say Team 1 6/10

team one 7/10 ftw

Both Thor and Orion are warriors-to-the-bone, whether fighting h2h or long-range. They're comfortable in either arena. 2 points for each.

Captain Marvel is basically a h2h fighter. Does he have any ranged abilities? I don't think he can "shazam" down a lightning bolt at a distance, otherwise, why does he usually wait til his opponent is near before shouting the magic word? CM gets 1 pt.

The Surfer is a long-range fighter. He has surprisingly good h2h skills, but again: both his opponents are trained warriors, likely his superiors in this area. Soarin' Norrin gets 1 pt.

4 > 2.

team 2 because of surfer...7/10

Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
team one 7/10 ftw

Team one 7/10 orion and Thor are too much. CM needs another partner.

My instincts told me team 2 but after reading compelling arguments for team 1 I'm on the fence. I'll wait a bit before coming to a decision.

Motherbox turns cap into billy, then its a beating for surfer.

Id go Team 2, 6/10. A no holding back Surfer is a sight to behold.

Team 2 for the win. And by some margin too.
Surfer's faster and more durable than anyone here.
He can attack from more angles, his board can KO or trap either Thor or Orion and he can easily destroy Orion's harness with a simple thought.

Team 2 8-9/10.

Originally posted by janus77
Team 2 for the win. And by some margin too.
Surfer's faster and more durable than anyone here.
He can attack from more angles, his board can KO or trap either Thor or Orion and he can easily destroy Orion's harness with a simple thought.

Team 2 8-9/10.

i am with you on this.... i have a feeling this will be a bigger mess than it needs to be.

Agreed. Team 2. Surfer is simply too fast for Team 1.

Team 1. It's basically Surfer vs Thor and Orion and Surfer isn't beating both of them.

You have no stock of Capt Marvel holding his own against either Thor or Orion?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Motherbox turns cap into billy, then its a beating for surfer.

Since when can a Motherbox turn CM into Billy? If thats actually happened as canon, then clearly Team 2 has no chance here, and these teams are pretty lopsided.

There was an instance when Billy couldn't change into Captain Marvel, so he used someone's MB to help him change. Or it could be the other way. Either way, Billy isn't beating Orion. Orion himself could give Surfer a good fight. Same with Thor.