Interesting match-up. Team two would have the edge if Thor matches up against Captain Marvel. Thor seems to have trouble with flying bricks of Captain Marvel's caliber. I would give the Surfer odds over Orion as long as he's not messing around.
On the other hand, if Thor matches up against the Surfer this is a 50/50 fight. Thor is the worst match-up for the Surfer of any top-tier. Mjolnir is a good counter to the Power Cosmic. Captain Marvel vs Orion is 50/50, IMO.
Originally posted by DarkOdin
Team 1Billy should be a top tier herald but he seem to be a notch under the other 3 in this team.
SS has a good shot a beating either Thor or Orion, but Thor has always been the better of the 2 and Orion has a very simlair powerset and fighting abilites to Thor so i give them the edge
Orion doesn't have a magic hammer to block PC blasts. He will be absorbing a lot more punishment than Thor usually does. The Surfer would work him if they went at it seriously. I won't even mention Darkseid:The Hunger.
Originally posted by Dampyre
Orion doesn't have a magic hammer to block PC blasts. He will be absorbing a lot more punishment than Thor usually does. The Surfer would work him if they went at it seriously. I won't even mention Darkseid:The Hunger.
I agree that Thor can absorb energy better, but Orion has FAR greater physical durability than Thor. The SS is also notorious for his glass jaw.
But I still think team 2 gets a slight majority mainly because of the speed advantage. It really all depends on how each team fights. If the SS and CM push their speed advantage they will win a solid majority. If they don't I can see team Thor winning the majority.
Originally posted by PillarofOsiris
I agree that Thor can absorb energy better, but Orion has FAR greater physical durability than Thor. The SS is also notorious for his glass jaw.But I still think team 2 gets a slight majority mainly because of the speed advantage. It really all depends on how each team fights. If the SS and CM push their speed advantage they will win a solid majority. If they don't I can see team Thor winning the majority.
The Surfer is the most durable member of either team. He's had some bad moments but no more so than any of the others. I don't see how Orion is any more durable than Thor is. They are similar and far less indestructable than the Surfer.
Originally posted by carver9how bout against the Black Panther a few years ago in a issue of F.F.?????
Ok, since Surfers rebirth, Annihilation, when has he been knocked out? I think people are still clinging to his fts 10+ yrs ago. That glass jaw comment needs to drop because that is no longer the case anymore. I can't even remember the last time Surfer has been koed.
Originally posted by carver9man that was PRIDE talking, because given the circumstances WHY would he have allowed BP to that? He was just embarassed the way that fight went down, thats all. I could respect your argument more if you had pointed out that BP had just drained him of his pc.
When was he koed? Also, you must didn't read the part where Surfer said he allowed Panther to do that?
Originally posted by lawest9
man that was PRIDE talking, because given the circumstances WHY would he have allowed BP to that? He was just embarassed the way that fight went down, thats all. I could respect your argument more if you had pointed out that BP had just drained him of his pc.
He let BP do that to find out the reason why Black Panther was on the mission he was on IIRC which was the reason Surfer asked a thousand questions while in this hold. Surfer told BP after this that he could have finished BP anytime hewanted. Serious question...did you read the comic after that scene?
Originally posted by carver9Yes I read the comic after that scene and do not recall that conversation, unless it took place in another comic, also in earlier in that story he physically restrain SS with arm bar that he couldn't break loose from, threatening to break ss arm if he didn't stand down. So how many times did SS have to "let" him do that to learn to the reasoning behind his mission? Now I will tell you that I thought that fight was the biggest PIS writing that I've seen in years.
He let BP do that to find out the reason why Black Panther was on the mission he was on IIRC which was the reason Surfer asked a thousand questions while in this hold. Surfer told BP after this that he could have finished BP anytime hewanted. Serious question...did you read the comic after that scene?
Originally posted by DampyreIndestructable surfer ??? Thor dented surfer's head with a headbutt Surfer's has a higher durability to piecering attacks but thats about it
The Surfer is the most durable member of either team. He's had some bad moments but no more so than any of the others. I don't see how Orion is any more durable than Thor is. They are similar and far less indestructable than the Surfer.
Originally posted by DampyreHe can counter attack with the motherbox or his harness
Orion doesn't have a magic hammer to block PC blasts. He will be absorbing a lot more punishment than Thor usually does. The Surfer would work him if they went at it seriously. I won't even mention Darkseid:The Hunger.