Thor, Orion vs Silver Surfer, Captain Marvel.

Started by celeyhyga174 pages
Originally posted by Dampyre
Orion doesn't have a magic hammer to block PC blasts. He will be absorbing a lot more punishment than Thor usually does. The Surfer would work him if they went at it seriously. I won't even mention Darkseid:The Hunger.

Shields playa...

Originally posted by DarkOdin
Indestructable surfer ??? Thor dented surfer's head with a headbutt Surfer's has a higher durability to piecering attacks but thats about it

Pure PIS there. The Sufer has never been dented before, even against attacks from beingsfar more powerful than Thor like Thanos, Mrrungo Mu, Stranger and Tyrant. He takes beating from the Hulk(who is stronger than Thor) without a scratch. The Surfer is more impervious than Thor to ALL types of attacks, piercings, cold, heat, energy and blunt force. There's no doubt than Thor will show damage before the Surfer will. Thor is very tough though and can stand up to alot of punishment.

Anyone bring up that ridiculous head-butting thing is really, really desperate. All of Thor's hammer shots from Thor in that same issue didn't dent the Surfer or even truly harm him. Are you saying Thor's head is harder than his hammer. Judging by his intellect you would think so but it's not the case. Need I bring up some PIS showings of Thor's?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Shields playa...

He'll need them to avoid a repeat of The Hunger.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Shields playa...

👆 Astro Force can conjure up shields like he did to block the Omega Beams.

Originally posted by Dampyre
The Surfer is more impervious than Thor to ALL types of attacks, piercings, cold, heat, energy and blunt force
This is a load of BS Thor's has shown to taking everything SS has with equal result Blast from celestrials, skyfather, blunt force Thro has even more showings, heat he has been in the sun and survive the fire for the phoenix and the cold from Ymir. SS is not more durable. Why coudl the head butt damage SS and the hammer not easy he hit didn't put the saem amount of force behind. THE ONLY thing Surfer has over Thor is speed anyone arguing otherwise is just a fanboy

Billy kills Thor. Then they high five and team up on Orion, who then proceeds to high five them instead.

Also, the Mother Box Shazam strat is assuming Billiam doesn't just Shazam back, move out of the way, or that it comes up at all.
In many ways it's like the Batman Cap fight. Where Batman kicked the magic out of him, and Willy still won.

Originally posted by Dampyre
Orion doesn't have a magic hammer to block PC blasts. He will be absorbing a lot more punishment than Thor usually does. The Surfer would work him if they went at it seriously. I won't even mention Darkseid:The Hunger.

Motherbox can absorb anything surfer can throw on orion. Orion can also dish out astro force which surfer can't absorb. Orion is a bad match up for surfer.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Motherbox can absorb anything surfer can throw on orion. Orion can also dish out astro force which surfer can't absorb. Orion is a bad match up for surfer.

Didn't look like it from the last story we saw actually saw these 2 in. Team 2 wins.

Originally posted by Tar-Antado
Didn't look like it from the last story we saw actually saw these 2 in. Team 2 wins.

Because John Byrne is a hack. That was a younger, inexperienced orion to boot. Also crossovers aren't valid here.

Surfer stomps Orion but Thor waxes Orion. Toss up though I favor Thor due to blood and thunder story.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Surfer stomps Orion but Thor waxes Orion. Toss up though I favor Thor due to blood and thunder story.
Orion does not do well here according to you

Billy watches from the sidelines then?

Surfer has a glass jaw? Heck, that must be some time ago, or some really oddl written storyline, as I remember Surfer being one of the most durable characters in comics, Marvel or DC (before and after Annihilation).

Still too close to call.

Originally posted by DTM
Surfer has a glass jaw? Heck, that must be some time ago, or some really oddl written storyline, as I remember Surfer being one of the most durable characters in comics, Marvel or DC (before and after Annihilation).

The Surfer having a glass jaw is pure nonsense.

Originally posted by DarkOdin
This is a load of BS Thor's has shown to taking everything SS has with equal result Blast from celestrials, skyfather, blunt force Thro has even more showings, heat he has been in the sun and survive the fire for the phoenix and the cold from Ymir. SS is not more durable. Why coudl the head butt damage SS and the hammer not easy he hit didn't put the saem amount of force behind. THE ONLY thing Surfer has over Thor is speed anyone arguing otherwise is just a fanboy

The Surfer has taken blasts from Galactus, Mrrungo Mu(at half-power), Stranger, Planet Gigo, Tyrant, The Other and more. I should note that in the Enslaver Arc, Mrrungo Mu knocked out Thor casually but had a prolonged battle with the Surfer. I should also note that if a being like Galactus really wanted to blast either Thor or Surfer with a shot or two they could do it. Oftentimes, they aren't using their full power when attacking herald-types.

I'm not sure how anyone can think that Thor is mre impervious to harm than the Silver Surfer. I would put Superman, Captain Marvel, Black Adam and others more durable as well. Now, are you honestly telling me that Thor put more force behind his headbutt than he did his charged-up Mjolnor shots? If so you shouldn't be calling anybody a fanboy. Not by a long shot.

The Surfer flies through stars like nothing and is completely impervious to cold. As a being who calls space home he HAS to be super-durable. His shell has only been damaged by cosmic entities if I'm not mistaken. There's no shame in being less durable than him.

Thor is a better fighter than the Surfer but he's in no way more durable, or even tougher than the Silver Surfer.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Motherbox can absorb anything surfer can throw on orion. Orion can also dish out astro force which surfer can't absorb. Orion is a bad match up for surfer.

I don't see it this way. Orion will be taking way more punishment than Thor. Do you really think Orion's Astro Glider is a better defense than Mjolnir against a PC blast from the Surfer? 😆

And you know that the Surfer can't absorb or manipulate Orion's Astro Force because....?

Originally posted by Dampyre
I don't see it this way. Orion will be taking way more punishment than Thor. Do you really think Orion's Astro Glider is a better defense than Mjolnir against a PC blast from the Surfer? 😆

And you know that the Surfer can't absorb or manipulate Orion's Astro Force because....?

Orion is the only one that can wield the Astro Force. It's basically an extension of him. It's anyones guess if Surfer can. Surfer's blasts will get deflected by his force fields, which easily deflected the Omega Beams.

Team 1.

Originally posted by Dampyre
The Surfer has taken blasts from Galactus, Mrrungo Mu(at half-power), Stranger, Planet Gigo, Tyrant, The Other and more. I should note that in the Enslaver Arc, Mrrungo Mu knocked out Thor casually but had a prolonged battle with the Surfer. I should also note that if a being like Galactus really wanted to blast either Thor or Surfer with a shot or two they could do it. Oftentimes, they aren't using their full power when attacking herald-types.

I'm not sure how anyone can think that Thor is mre impervious to harm than the Silver Surfer. I would put Superman, Captain Marvel, Black Adam and others more durable as well. Now, are you honestly telling me that Thor put more force behind his headbutt than he did his charged-up Mjolnor shots? If so you shouldn't be calling anybody a fanboy. Not by a long shot.

The Surfer flies through stars like nothing and is completely impervious to cold. As a being who calls space home he HAS to be super-durable. His shell has only been damaged by cosmic entities if I'm not mistaken. There's no shame in being less durable than him.

Thor is a better fighter than the Surfer but he's in no way more durable, or even tougher than the Silver Surfer.

THe whole point of bringing up the head but is it is stupid to compare just like you saying SS is more durable then Thor on paper the only thing SS has on Thor is his combat speed and that is it.

Originally posted by Dampyre
I don't see it this way. Orion will be taking way more punishment than Thor. Do you really think Orion's Astro Glider is a better defense than Mjolnir against a PC blast from the Surfer? 😆

And you know that the Surfer can't absorb or manipulate Orion's Astro Force because....?


Not at all. Motherbox can absorb surfer's attacks easily. Orion is the only one to wield astro force. It was a gift from The source as the "wrath of source". Not astro harness, motherbox.